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To: TimF who wrote (142018)1/22/2002 1:41:17 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1585499
 
Remember this was outside Afghanistan......I believe it was two F 15s or F 16s that went down.

I remember one or two helicopters outside of Afghanistan (and one inside), a tanker version of a C-130, and a B1. I don't remember anything about F-16s or F-16's going down.


Tim, both were here in the US....one for sure over Jersey...it crashed onto a highway or something......I can't remember. I will try to look it up tomorrow.

F-15s and F-16s are are less then the $50-100mil range you gave (esp. the F-16s) but then you can add in the cost to train the pilot. The biggest loss of course would be the pilots life if there was a fatal crash not the cost of the aircraft.

I thought the F-15s/16s themselves were over $50 million. I was reading something about Boeing and I remember that number in connection with those planes.

I understand the loss of aircraft when at war from difficult flying conditions etc.......however, I have a problem when the planes that crash occur during peacetime patroling or maneuvers.

Even in peacetime patroling and manuvers military planes have had a worse safety record then civilian airliners for a long time. Airliners are incredibly safe. Military planes even in peace time often operate at a higher tempo then civilian planes. They pull more difficult manuvers and practice things that they would do in combat. Even in straight level flight they would probably have a worse safety record then airliners (but maybe better then Cessnas and such)


Well, I am not a pilot so its hard to comment. I just think maybe the pilots need to chill some of their acrobatics.....like T. Cruise in his Air Force movie. <g>

As for age of the F-15s

"The first F-15A flight was made in July 1972, and the first flight of the two-seat F-15B (formerly TF-15A) trainer was made in July 1973. The first Eagle (F-15B) was delivered in November 1974. In January 1976, the first Eagle destined for a combat squadron was delivered.


My mistake.......I thought they were from the late 80's.

ted