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To: Lorne Larson who wrote (2495)	1/23/2002 4:17:51 PM
From: Peter W. Panchyshyn	Respond to of 11633

O.K. genius, try this one. Joe buys Stock A at $6.50 and sells it at $6.49. Use proceeds to buy Stock B at $6.49. Sells Stock B at $150.00. Has he made or lost money? -------------- You sure like playing your little games. At every opportunity I give you the opportunity to end this by saying refrain from the outrageous claims and I will have no need pick apart what you claim and show it for what it is. But still you wish to continue. Your only digging a deeper hole for yourself. At any rate it is very interesting the numbers you use in this above. Are we to take from this that this is ""YOU"". Your DOCUMENTED LOSSES well they are just so insignificant, mere pennies. And your UNDOCUMENTED GAINS well when they come they are just so very huge ( buy $6 sell at $150 ) as to be unbelievable. Well your right about one thing that kind of a gain for you is VERY VERY VERY UNBELIEVABLE. You can't be serious that this is how you see yourself. If it is, please refer us to that documented post where you display such an achievment. Or if it is to come ( yeah right !!! ) when can we expect it. Its only been 9 months or better and it hasn't materialized yet. If you or your fellow exaggerated claimers would like to place a little wager I will take any and all bets that you with these trusts will NEVER have this kind of reported documented return EVER. If this kind of display is a last ditch effort to con joe average to make the wrong move at the wrong time just so you can make a gain. You do not seriously expect him to fall for it , do you ??????????????? ------------------------ Or this one: Joe buys Stock A at $20.00. Stock A falls to .01. Joe doesn't sell. Joe wants to use stock as collateral on a loan. Joe presents personal net worth to banker showing Stock A at its book value of $20.00. Banker asks why he has done that. Joe says it's worth $20.00 because he bought it at $20.00 and it continues to be worth $20.00 until he sells it because "it might go up to $20.00 again". Joe says he "can't lose". Banker refuses loan and suggests Joe immediately seek psychiatric help. ------------------ If your previous example was suppose to be you. Is this example suppose to me. You tried unsuccessfully to turn my attacking your outrageous claims by asking for my documented evidence. Well I detailed my method ( post # 1998 and in that another referenced much earlier ) which could be tested and verified with real past data. Yours sadly was that you always sold at huge superior gains and you had no method it came natural and by magic and could not be tested ( how convenient !!!!!! ) and all would just have to take your word on it and go quickly and risk their hard earned money. You asked for my results, and I delivered on several numerous occassions. Your only response was to not reply after they were presented. Then later on ask again saying that I never produced them. You did this on several occassions. Funny that another poster following my postings had this to say from Message 16818804 """"""""""""""The bottom line here Peter is that I should have done better research. That will come because you see I really think you are on to something here at least for a portion of my portfolio. """""""""""""""" This public echoes many more private messages I have received over the last weeks and months. I made reference to this before and yes with the start of this latest round you still ignore all pretending if you do, they don't exist. Even after I have delivered repeatedly as you have asked. Your own proof about your own "superior" results have never ever been forthcoming. You say you have superior realized gains but where are they. You only show documented losses. And these several we are all just suppose to ignore because you show us an unrealized gain. GET REAL !!!!!!!!. -------------------- Getting back to the above example. Funny about your numbers care to show where I made such a disaster. You tried once with the ERF warrants. But as always the documented results prevail. I said each trade I made , as with all my purchases were documented in the past posts. Each buy sell for the warrants clearly showed I held none to expiry. Because when I asked you to provide the post showing so. You never delivered. Now as to the use of personal net worth presented to the banker I delivered to him as I have here. My method of how I do what I do. And a continual 3 month running of the results. And thanks to the banker being able to understand the basics (realized - unrealized : which you yourself fail miserably at) and relying on the undisputable documented evidence. Has made me a valuable client for the bank. And I don't or can't lose because unlike you I do a complete and detailed analysis, using a verifiable methodology. I don't like you use only peices of information and then invest. Or I don't get scared and panic and do the wrong things at the wrong time and take real realized losses. And I most certainly don't try to con or scare joe average just to make a gain. ------------------