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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (42561)	1/22/2002 10:33:24 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

"Ask Yamamoto. Or Osama bin Laden." They did not have goodwill or regard for the States. Quite the contrary. "Remember the US embargoes against Japan? The ones which are often used to claim the US provoked the attack?" Well, of course...I would not say "provoked"; nor do I ascribe blame; but we all understand the connections... I absolutely support the American preparations for war, although there are mysteries which are hard to puzzle out. I have been to Pearl Harbor, btw; it felt like I was reliving that infamous day: Very very sad. My comment was about the torture and inhuman treatment of the Chinese. The embargos did not comment on this inhumanity--although it was well known. I have never read any official criticism (before Pearl Harbor) of torture, war crimes, etc. I am not saying it wasn't there; only that I do not recall reading it--and I am fairly well read. This was my comment: "You should also ask yourself why nothing was said against the atrocious Japanese treatment of the Chinese until after America entered the war. It was simply ho-hum."

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (42561)	1/23/2002 10:20:25 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

You are quite right. America had a long- standing sentimental attachment to China, fueled by missionary activity. Many people in organizations like the YMCA had spent time in China teaching, staffing medical clinics, and evangelizing, and a great deal of money was collected on behalf of such activities. When Sun Yat Sen, a Methodist, became President, these activities accelerated. Thus, there was considerable outrage in the United States over Japanese atrocities, especially the Rape of Nanking, and a great deal of pressure on the Roosevelt Administration to take a firm stand against Japan.........