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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: greenspirit who wrote (9764)	1/23/2002 11:44:52 PM
From: Selectric II	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93284

Anyone who thinks Clinton helped women achieve financial equality is, well, mistaken, according to Washington Post. washingtonpost.com Salary Gap Growing, Study Says By Shannon Henry Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, January 24, 2002; Page A09 Female managers are not only making less money than men in many industries, but the wage gap has deepened during the economic boom years of 1995 to 2000, a congressional study to be released today reports. Full-time female managers earned on average less than their male counterparts in the 10 industries that employ 71 percent of all female workers, and in seven of the 10 fields, the pay difference widened. Just when it seemed the wage gap was a relic of another time, the backward earnings slide alarmed the two congressional members who requested and analyzed the report. "I don't find one line of good news in the report," said Rep. Carolyn B. Maloney (D-N.Y.). "Yet I think people believe women are doing better." "I can't tell you why," said Rep. John D. Dingell (D-Mich.) about the report's findings. "There are more questions raised by the study, frankly, than answers." The study, prepared by the General Accounting Office, found that a full-time female communications manager earned 86 cents for every dollar a male made in her industry in 1995. In 2000, she made only 73 cents on the man's dollar. The industries under study included public administration; professional medical services; hospitals and medical services; education; entertainment and recreation services; finance, insurance and real estate; business and repair services; retail trade; and other professional services. The study also reported that women in management positions find it more difficult than men to balance family and career. About 60 percent of married female managers do not have children at home, while 40 percent of married male managers are not raising children. "I really did believe it would be easier for our daughters," Maloney said yesterday at a lunch with female reporters and editors where the report was released in advance. Maloney said the report's findings are particularly troubling because there is a general sense in the United States that generation by generation, women have been edging closer to equality with men in many areas, including career and compensation. "It's a wake-up call, not only for corporate America but all of America," she said. Dingell and Maloney said the study brings up many questions that may be addressed by regulations or legislation in the future, including an examination of maternity-leave policies and a fresh look at the Equal Rights Amendment. The lawmakers said they also planned to analyze data from the 2000 Census that is expected out later this year. Still, as bleak as the study seemed, some cautioned against interpreting the findings as a significant blow to gender equality. "It's possible a lot more junior women are entering those industries, therefore lowering the average age and the average wage," said Diana Furchtgott-Roth, chief of staff of the council of economic advisers at the White House and co-author of "The Feminist Dilemma: When Success is Not Enough." "That's curious, but it tells us nothing in particular," said Ed Hudgins, director of regulatory studies at the Cato Institute in Washington. Hudgins said he knows a number of professional women who have taken time off to have children, which, along with other economic and cultural patterns, could possibly explain the division. This report is the latest study to show obstacles facing women in the working world. Catalyst of New York, a nonprofit group that studies women's issues, reported in 2000 that among senior-level managers in the financial-services industry, 58 percent of women are raising children while 88 percent of men have kids at home. "It begs the question 'Do women and men have the same choices?'‚" said Johanna Ramos-Boyer of Catalyst. Ramos-Boyer also pointed to findings that show the gender gap in the workplace is, at least in some corners, improving; a recent Catalyst study found that in 2001, 12.4 percent of corporate board seats were held by women, up from 8.3 percent in 1993. Pay studies that account for an employee's education level and their time in the workforce and at a particular job are often the most reliable measures of gender gap, said John Dantico of the Society for Human Resource Management. Compensation expert Allison Sumrow of Dallas-based People Solutions Inc. said pay inequities still exist. Pay differential often widens when women enter a company with low starting salaries, she said. Subsequent raises women earn are added to the low base figure, offering few chances to make up ground. Staff writer Carrie Johnson contributed to this report. © 2002 The Washington Post Company

To: greenspirit who wrote (9764)	1/24/2002 12:10:53 AM
From: Don Hurst	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93284

Maybe you haven't heard...Ms Clinton was handily elected senator of NY and didn't Bush push his tax cut for the top 1% AFTER he got selected. I guess he did not know that the recession you claim had started under Clinton had already started. He kept saying that we should give the "surplus" back to those who needed it... the top 1%... It was their money. Too bad for all of us that he did not check with you before he pushed us back into deficits. You RWET types never learn. Write this down so you don't forget....Daschle v Bush in 04 and Daschle wins in a walk! That is if Bush survives Enron now that the press and Congress are going to find the dirt. Kenny Boy may turn states evidence to save himself. Oh and another thing... the military that whipped the bad guys so easily in Afghanistan is Clinton's military; the same ones that chewed up Serbia without any trouble.

To: greenspirit who wrote (9764)	1/24/2002 4:01:19 AM
From: jttmab	Respond to of 93284

Adding on to Don's observation: Oh and another thing... the military that whipped the bad guys so easily in Afghanistan is Clinton's military; the same ones that chewed up Serbia without any trouble. You should have noticed recently, that the use of precision weapons in Afghan was near 80%; while in Desert Storm it was closer to 10%. And those precision guided weapons were a fraction of the cost that they were in the Bush Administration. You may have also noticed the development and fielding of the Predator and Hellfire-equipped Predator, the later being a direct contribution of Clinton's cabinet. Just a couple of nifty tidbits. From Rumsfeld we hear the rhetoric about how terrible the military got and how the military infrastructure was starved. But when Rumsfled talks about his budget proposal to Congress, he talks about base closings, he talks about about shutting down reserve units that have more B-1 flying time and a substantially reduced cost of maintainance over that of the Air Force. And how else does Rumsfled plan to spend your tax dollars in rebuilding the "neglected military infrastructure"...SDI, military pay raises, and replacing the precision guided weapons that the Clinton Administration so kindly had in the inventory. I've no objections to the last two, but they aren't "neglected military infrastructure" expenditures. The entire rationale the Bush Administration uses for SDI was completely discredited by the Intelligence summary released a few weeks ago. We "had" to withdraw from the ABM treaty so we could test a sea-based SDI system...which was promptly terminated the very next day due to overruns and poor performance. Re: Dashle is a liar It's not hard to listen to the rhetoric of Bush and Rumsfeld and see what they actually do. Your sentence would be a whole lot more accurate if it read "Bush/Rumsfeld are liars". washingtonpost.com Rhetoric Fails to Budge Policy on Iraq War Priorities, Debate on Aid to Hussein Foes Prevent Action By Karen DeYoung and Walter Pincus Washington Post Staff Writers Thursday, January 24, 2002; Page A01 Despite fierce rhetoric from senior Bush officials against Saddam Hussein, the administration's policy toward Iraq remains largely frozen where it was left by President Bill Clinton..... After a year of top-level internal review, the administration has yet to lift a Clinton prohibition against lethal aid for Iraqi opposition groups. The opposition, principally the London-based Iraqi National Congress (INC), continues to be barred as a matter of policy from using U.S. funds to carry out activities inside Iraq. A State Department slot designated to coordinate with the Iraqi opposition has been vacant since last summer...... ---------------- How stupid is the conservative base when it comes to believing rhetoric?.... When they want to criticize. During the Reagan Administration it was the House of Representatives that had the power to control the budget, during the Clinton years it was Administration that had the power to control the budget, and now we begin to hear that it's the Senate that has the power to control the budget. On the other hand when the conservatives want to be complementary about the Federal expenditures...it's Reagan Budget, followed by the conservative Congress, followed by Bush Jr's budget. The Conservative leadership has been contradicting [lying] to their base for decades and the base still hasn't caught on. I might even be a conservative, politically, if I knew what one was. Is a conservative what that say they'll do, or is it what they'll do? The two are quite different. On the other hand, it appears that you've bought into all the rhetoric [lying] jttmab

To: greenspirit who wrote (9764)	1/24/2002 5:59:41 AM
From: jttmab	Respond to of 93284

Then we have the Leave no child behind theme. Sounds good. Thumbs up to the conservative that came up with that line. We certainly must recall the feather in George Bush's cap on education reform throughout Texas. Another thumbs up. And how Bush would bring that education reform to the whole US. Another thumbs up. Here's your entry to the whole series by the Dallas Morning News. dallasnews.com Here's a snippet of one of the articles you'll find... dallasnews.com Dropout study paints worse picture than state Criticized report shows just over half of DISD students graduate 11/15/2001 By JOSHUA BENTON / The Dallas Morning News Barely half of all high school students in Dallas and Fort Worth schools graduate, according to a new study by a conservative think tank. That includes less than 40 percent of Latino students. Those numbers are sharply different from the numbers reported by the Texas Education Agency, which says 75 percent of Dallas students graduate within four years, including 67 percent of Latinos. But Dallas officials acknowledge that state data may underestimate the size of the problem. .......... ****************************************** The best you can say about the Leave no child behind theme in Dallas-Fort Worth is that it's business friendly education. You've got nearly half of the kids with no training and no high school education. It ensures that business has an ample supply of unskilled, minimum wage labor. Low wages is good for business, which is good for the economy....after all, that's the reason conservatives fight raising minimum wage. Leave no child behind? Heck, in DFW they leave half of them behind and just rig the data so it doesn't look so bad and put a faked feather in Bush's cap....then trot how the conservatives that proclaim the great success. jttmab

To: greenspirit who wrote (9764)	1/24/2002 6:12:03 AM
From: jttmab	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 93284

Of course we also have the Lift all boats in the rising tide theme. Another thumbs up! We can even throw in a bit of environmental record for Bush and a touch of racial equality in this Texas success story. dallasnews.com Toxic Traps Racial patterns, Economics, segregation left minorities closer to toxic sites By Ed Timms TEXAS CITY, Texas — Minority children who live in the Grand Camp Apartments, a Texas City housing project, play in a park across the street from several storage tanks. Behind the tanks, refineries rumble and spew. The mostly black residents of Port Arthur’s Carver Terrace project live in the shadow of a petrochemical complex....... .......George Fuller, who heads Texas City’s housing authority, said ..... "We’re doing the best we can with what we have," he said. **************** Good thing that Texas controlled those "environmental whackos". All those high school dropouts have to have somewhere to live. jttmab

To: greenspirit who wrote (9764)	1/24/2002 1:44:35 PM
From: jttmab	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 93284

How much of that 4 trillion is due to the recession, and how much is due to tax cuts? To get to your question....we can think about the number $5 trillion instead of $4 trillion. washingtonpost.com Extract: But the CBO forecast suggested that the government would have eked out a small surplus this year absent the president's tax cut. Democrats charged yesterday that Bush's tax cut is largely responsible for the startling long-run decline in what, only a year ago, appeared to be more than $5 trillion in surpluses. The White House last year had said that its budget would not touch Social Security payroll taxes to fund other parts of the government and was designed to pay down $2 trillion of federal debt by 2010. But the new projections suggest that Social Security funds will be tapped for other programs through the rest of the decade, with little prospect for significant debt reduction. End of extract. Dashle is a liar Actually, it's not Daschle it's the CBO, which is considered by both sides of the aisle to be an independent arm of Congress. Career government budget/accounting weenies. You're not going to find a member of Congress that says the CBO is lying. Now Bush is saying that we'll tap into the SS trust fund for the rest of the decade....that puts it at the nearly the moment when the SS the baby boomers start drawing on the principal. So we've gone from paying down $2 trillion dollars of debt to cr*p. If you want to turn your focus to "the recession", note that Greenspan said today that it appears the recession is over or nearing the bottom. You could also recall that last year some of the Democratic members of Congress we're complaining that Bush's proposal was unrealistically optimistic in terms of revenue with a declining economy and his proposed budget was unrealistically restrained. To put it differently, Bush already built into the budget proposal a scenario in which it was guaranteed that there would be a surplus drain. Same game Reagan played. jttmab