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To: Shane M who wrote (2960)1/27/2002 1:59:11 PM
From: Jurgis Bekepuris  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4690
 
Shane,

I own ANF. Bought it at lower prices (~20). Tough
to value with their short history of huge
ROE that is clearly unsustainable. I'm currently using
23% expected ROE - based on 9 months ROE last year,
that gives expected annualized return of ~13% from here
using Buffettology spreadsheet. The calculation is highly
dependent on actual ROE and possibly not applicable,
since ANF is not a true "high moat" Buffett company,
so take it for what it's worth.

I am not interested in APOL, since I am very doubtful
of service companies, especially about an education
company. JKHY is also a pass - one has to understand
their competitive position which would be tough, since
I have not heard about them before. BBBY - I doubt,
but I'll take a look. CTSH - similar to JKHY, I don't
want to own consulting company where I don't know
competitive strengths. Others pass 1 minute test
of looking at their Yahoo profiles.

I'll take a look at the other companies later when I
am on my main stock analysis PC and let you know.

Let me know what you dig out.

Jurgis - back on the murder trail...



To: Shane M who wrote (2960)1/28/2002 5:24:32 PM
From: Jurgis Bekepuris  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4690
 
Shane,

I ran through the ROE histories and "Buffettology"
spreadsheet calculations for your companies.

I discarded APOL, JHKY and CTSH as mentioned before.
I discarded ADRX, MTD for too short histories.

From the remaining CHKP, WAT and AEOS are the
most attractive with ~17-19% projected annual return.
However, all of them have warts:
CHKP - unsustainable average ROE of 33%, if it drops to 25%, the projected return drops to 10%. Foreign company.
WAT - short history, spiky ROE, possibly unsustainable average ROE of 29%, if it drops to 25%, the projected return drops to 13%.
AEOS - trendy retailer, possibly unsustainable average ROE of 24%, if it drops to 20%, the projected return drops to 11%.

A notch below is CDWC. BBBY is not interesting at all.

I have NOT yet considered the very important issue of
the moat and/or brand. I have not looked into recent
filings - except for CHKP - and recent news. I have not
looked into different share classes - did you do that
with APOL?

I may look at these things for CHKP, AEOS and WAT.
Any comments are welcome.

Jurgis



To: Shane M who wrote (2960)2/2/2002 2:56:19 AM
From: James Clarke  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4690
 
Shane, Jurgis and Paul. Don't know how you did it but you got this thread going again after I'd written it off. Guess you just use the letters GG in a post and all of a sudden there's 40 responses. Wish I had something to say, but I don't right now. Just good to have something to read.