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To: mightylakers who wrote (111746)1/27/2002 1:03:11 AM
From: Jon Koplik  Respond to of 152472
 
Weekend off topic -- Marines Reveal Items From Al-Qaida

January 26, 2002

Marines Reveal Items From Al - Qaida

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 10:02 p.m. ET

KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (AP) -- The guns and ammunition were expected. The
poster of New York's Twin Towers set against Afghan mountains was not.

U.S. Marines who joined elite Navy SEALS in searching al-Qaida caves said
Saturday they made some unsettling discoveries: a photo of President Bush with
blood running down his face and another of Osama bin Laden holding a
Kalashnikov rifle and marked with the words ``Leader of Peace.''

The Marines' accounts, given during interviews at the U.S. military base here in
southern Afghanistan, provided a rare glimpse into the cave-by-cave war being
waged by U.S. forces hunting for elusive al-Qaida and Taliban fighters and any
tidbits of information about bin Laden's worldwide terrorist network.

With the Taliban ousted from power and hiding out in Afghanistan's rugged
mountains and valleys, U.S. bombing is winding down. Instead, the battle against
terrorism has shifted to the painstaking search of caves and other remote
locations for al-Qaida and Taliban renegades as well as intelligence information to
prevent further terrorist attacks.

It's dangerous, daunting work.

Marines described the cave complex they searched this month as elaborately
constructed. Reinforced with concrete and tall enough to walk freely around, the
caves had an irrigation system to water trees and flowers outside.

``It didn't look like a cave. Someone put some time into this place,'' said Sgt.
Charles Calfee, 28, of Dublin, Va. ``It reminded me of the Flintstones.''

Originally, the 50 Marines from Lima Company, Battalion Landing Team 3/6 of
the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit were flown to the caves in the area between
Khost and Gardez in eastern Afghanistan to guard the SEALS while they
searched.

The SEALS, along with special forces from the Army and Air Force and CIA
operatives, are taking a lead in the current phase of the Afghan conflict, which
began after the U.S.-backed northern alliance routed the Taliban in last year's
fighting.

The mission was meant to last 10 hours. Instead, it took several days and the
SEALS -- overwhelmed with the amount of intelligence information they found --
had to enlist the Marines in their search.

``Every day we found more,'' said 1st Sgt. Joseph Bolton, of Gillette, Wyo.

The Marines, stationed at Camp Lejeune, N.C., refused to reveal the exact
location of or give details about the caves. They also would not say what type of
information or how many weapons and rounds of ammunition were found.

Marines spokesman 1st Lt. James Jarvis said the information is being analyzed
and could help American forces find suspected Taliban and al-Qaida fighters.

``Obviously it's still early in the campaign,'' Jarvis said. ``There are still Taliban
and al-Qaida forces in the region.''

The caves have proved a headache even for the high-tech U.S. military. U.S.
aircraft targeted some caves with ``bunker-busting'' bombs that pierce concrete
and 15,000 pound ``daisy cutters'' -- the most powerful conventional bombs in
the U.S. arsenal -- to kill al-Qaida and Taliban forces thought to be hiding inside.

U.S. forces chasing leads on the whereabouts of terror mastermind Osama bin
Laden and Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar have also come up
empty-handed.

Gen. Tommy Franks, commander of the Afghan campaign, said Saturday he did
not know the whereabouts of either man. But he said they get fresh leads daily.
``Some of it turns out to be good information and some of it not,'' he said.

The Marines said it was clear that those who hid in the caves left in a hurry.
They found flour, sugar, corn meal and eggs, which the U.S. soldiers baked into
bread because they were short of rations for the first few days of their search.

In nearby mud-walled huts, where the Marines used to sleep, they also found a
chilling reminder of what brought them to Afghanistan in the first place: the date
Sept. 11, written in Arabic-style writing on the wall.

``There was no doubt we were in bad guy country,'' said Capt. Lloyd Freeman,
34, of Bells, Texas.

``It felt good to be part of the force, like we came out here to do what we came
to do, fix what started the whole thing in the first place.''

Copyright 2002 The Associated Press



To: mightylakers who wrote (111746)1/27/2002 11:27:48 AM
From: Art Bechhoefer  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 152472
 
What type of Chinese should Americans learn--Mandarin? Cantonese? Art --eom



To: mightylakers who wrote (111746)1/27/2002 5:37:50 PM
From: S100  Respond to of 152472
 
Not everything seems to be in good shape in China. I understand the banks have a large number of none performing loans. The Government directs the banks where to loan money. Under the WTO, the Chinese banks will open to outside commercial banks in two year and later (5 years) for banks for private people. Once the people have a choice between a bank with shaky financials vice outside banks with better financials, deposits may move to the outside banks.

Most here (USA) can remember the big S and L crisis a few years back, which seemed to be caused by Government policies. For a while, most of the new buildings in my area were for S and Ls and banks. I can think of 13 S and Ls or banks in a six block area, most have changed names several times. Of the many places that I had accounts, one is a pizza parlor, one is a coffee shop, one is a dress shop and one is a Doctor's office. Many had been in business for many years, the government declared them insolvent and closed them. I have my doubts.

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"The Bank of China is actually one of the most tightly controlled banks in China. If they get away with it there, imagine how much easier it is at other banks," says one former senior Bank of China executive at an overseas branch.

At the root of the problem is a banking system smothered by politics. Since bank executives in China are expected to lend money to support an array of state objectives, they have wide scope for discretionary use of deposits. While making loans to prop up money-losing state enterprises, many bank managers also redirect millions of dollars for private purposes. A lending officer who questions a loan may be told it is "to make a contribution to the country and support the reforms," according to the former BOC banker.

Bank lending is also at the centre of the crony-based patronage networks that thrive in China's closed political system -a big reason why many of the smaller and more independent banks have not been spared the scourge of corruption.

The result is that graft is endemic in the system. That problem is more visible as China integrates with the rest of the world and its corruption spills across borders. The result for the banks is lower returns and often the accumulation of more nonperforming loans, already estimated to account for half to two-thirds of all loans in China. Some scholars in the country are warning of a "Latin Americanization" of the banking system, in which flight capital and corrupt lending bring the financial system to ruin.

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To: mightylakers who wrote (111746)1/28/2002 1:42:18 AM
From: S100  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 152472
 
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