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To: SirRealist who wrote (17419)	1/28/2002 12:33:41 PM
From: Math Junkie	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

I find myself wondering if Israel could not improve its security by repudiating the Oslo Accords and closing its border with the Palestinian-controlled areas. The Accords certainly don't seem to be working and seem to have created an untenable situation. But maybe that would make things worse.

To: SirRealist who wrote (17419)	1/28/2002 12:36:17 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

When presented with an intractable problem, sometimes it is necessary to question one's assumptions. I think it's clear that the Palestinians don't want a pragmatic solution. My question was, why? After all, as Nadine points out, the Israelis only wanted a teeny-tiny piece of Arabic land to call their own. And, as everyone knows, they've done a better job developing it than the Arabs did. And, everyone except the Arabs think it's a fine thing. And, anyway, it's a done deal, so they should get over it, already. And, most of all, their leaders are not nice people, and they do bad things, so it's hard to feel sympathy for them. It's just that some people have a funny way of not being pragmatic about things that really, really, really make them mad, like taking over their country. Ask the Irish how they feel about the Brits. Ask the Yugoslavians and the Greeks how they felt about the Turks. Interesting how all these situations involve people with different religions, as well as different ethic groups. Here in America we think people should all just get along. Not everyone feels that way. Americans don't seem to understand that everyone does not want to be like Americans. It's one of our uglier qualities.

To: SirRealist who wrote (17419)	1/28/2002 4:51:15 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 281500

Luckily, Mr SurRealist, there are some UN ideas on both historical and human rights. Ilmarinen I especially like the surrealism of words and sentences like this <If Palestine was never prepared to let that be a foundation for an agreement and preferred some prior standard, they should not have signed on at Oslo.> Especially in the present light of failing the Oslo agreement, both the published one, and as it is in realastic agreements of the responsible, the just agreed to. Unluckily those assassinators had their day, once again, the killer application once more,ouch, those hands and death wishes. news6.thdo.bbc.co.uk