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To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (138097)	1/29/2002 3:00:30 PM
From: KeepItSimple	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 164684

Ok you idiots, as someone who has been on a low-carb diet for the past 5 years and who has completed three marathons, I think I know what I'm talking about. Low carb is GREAT for people who want to lose weight without a lifestyle-changing amount of extra physical exercise. You can do the atkins diet and lose a ton of weight while just sitting on your ass. However, your top-performance energy levels WILL decrease. If you intend on running a marathon or any other high-endurance event, you HAVE TO LOAD UP ON CARBS BEFOREHAND. Your body can't convert fat to energy fast enough to meet the demands of immediate strenuous activity, period. Once I tried to run 5 miles after not having any carbs for about 4 weeks, and I simply could not do it. I crapped out halfway through the run. The next day I had a big serving of pasta and bread and that evening I ran the 5 miles like I was floating on air. Any legitimate competitive athelete knows they must ingest carbs, and lots of them. The trick is that they expend so many calories with physical activity that they don't gain weight from them. ------------------------------- craig, you are full of it. the diet sears is explaining IS NOT the diet you support. which PROVES my point. you call atkins a high fat diet now instead of a miniscule carbo diet b/c you have NO EVIDENCE THAT A SEVERELY CARBO RESTRICTED DIET IS GOOD FOR PERFORMANCE. NONE. NADDA, ZILCH, ZIP.

To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (138097)	1/29/2002 6:00:33 PM
From: craig crawford	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

>> craig, you are full of it. the diet sears is explaining IS NOT the diet you support. << you wanna bet? he clearly called it a low-carbohydrate diet with a "massive" amount of fat. he made it quite clear that the diet cited in the study was not a zone-favorable diet. but then for some strange reason he cited the study as evidence supporting his diet, when it is much more like an atkins diet. >> you call atkins a high fat diet now instead of a miniscule carbo diet... << that's what it is you dummy. a high fat diet. something has to be eaten instead of all those carbs, right? are you trying to say that atkins is low-carb and low-fat? get outta here. >> NO EVIDENCE THAT A SEVERELY CARBO RESTRICTED DIET IS GOOD FOR PERFORMANCE. NONE. NADDA, ZILCH, ZIP. << apparently you need to go read your own diet bible again. let me save you some time. page 49. >> are you ovverweight? are you ill? or are you just an undisciplined protein glutton? ;-) << i told you potato head, the protein levels in my diet are not much higher than the zone recommendation of 30%. >> i will say that at least you are reading a balanced book for once. << apparently it seems to have sunk in to my carbo-deprived brain a little better because i seem to be able to explain the zone better than you do! >> btw, i don't believe all of what sears says << i don't believe all of what dr atkins says. you can never find anyone you agree with 100%. >> the diet is reasonable, rational and balanced << it is mostly reasonable, except for a few misguided things such as avoiding egg yolks and excessive avoidance of saturated fats. >> the weight loss results are there... << i don't dispute this. anytime you get people to stop eating junk food like sugar, flour, pasta, bread, etc. like dr sears does they are going to have a much easier time losing weight. >> ...surpassing atkins in some cases << hah! if millions of people have tried both diets i'm sure you can find some cases where people lost more on zone than atkins. that doesn't prove anything, such as the majority of people lose more weight on zone. the majority of the public doesn't even follow low-carb diets like atkins properly and then they complain that it doesn't work for whatever reason. >> the increased energy is there << people report increased energy on a low-carb atkins type diet as well. >> the energy is due to eating appropriate amounts of carbos that break down to feed the brain glucose - a REQUIREMENT << wrong. >> it is not the same as a ketosis "high," the same "high" people get to minimize the pain of starving to death! << i don't think you have the first clue about ketosis. i think you read a paragraph or two of misinformation in the zone book and that is the extent of your knowledge. if you would like to prove otherwise, by all means.