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To: KymarFye who wrote (15075)	1/30/2002 8:51:25 PM
From: exdaytrader76	Respond to of 18137

FWIW snagit is free and easy: download.cnet.com I guess it is only free for a while; a day trading shop would have a lot of computers upon which to "preview" the demo should it desire...

To: KymarFye who wrote (15075)	1/30/2002 9:18:36 PM
From: MechanicalMethod	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 18137

Kymar, Paint shop pro is about $80 or $100 dollars. I've never used photo shop but think it's up there in the same class of programs. I like PSP because I can zoom in on a chart using the mouse wheel and if it gets too big for the screen I can drag the picture to get back to where I'm studying. To zoom out scroll the wheel again. To crop select a tool and drag to highlight an area, then select crop to image. I'll often select a portion and by using any number of ways from copying, mirroring, flipping upside down, whatever, it creates a duplicate I can drag around the chart and use as a ruler to compare the measurement of one part of a pricebar to another part of another pricebar... or the length of a an upswing to another part of the chart. It's easy to write notes on the chart, draw lines. There's a clone brush that will smooth the edges of a cut n paste where you're trying to remove something from an image and have pasted a block that almost matches but not quite, this touches up the edges. If you zoom anywhere near the maximum pixel size you can do pretty much anything you want. You'd probably be surprised at how many of the tools it has are applicable to studying other peoples charts. Particularly when I only want 1 aspect of it saved because it highlights something I'm focusing on. I'll paste black background back over the notes they had and write my own notes. If I'm modeling something and there's moving avg in the chart I can literally remove it although it takes a bit of excessive effort sometimes it's just the right simplification needed to get the focus back to whatever originally caught my attention on the chart. Simplification like this always brings out the finer points in the details I'm focusing on. Of course if it's my own charts I'm working with I do all the zooming in on the model within TS and write the notes there and add anything else it needs but after I snap the gif I often think of something else and it's easily done in PSP but I've been using it for years and it's loaded with toolbars and commands that take awhile to learn your way around. There's somethings aboutit like changing the text color I still have difficulty with sometimes and can't ever seem to remember the correct key sequences and mouse clicks for but overall I wouldn't trade it for anything else. If I were starting over without already knowing PSP I'd probably get Photo Shop instead but I won't be switching now because of the learning curve involved just to get back to where I am, so there wouldn't be anything gained. BTW, I think my last upgrade was $79? The cost for it new might be over $100 but I doubt by much... that's PSP. Photoshop is considerably higher. What I like best is when working with other peoples charts I can cut the dateline and paste it thus removing the indicator panes that might not be of any value to me. yeah I get a little obsessive about it but the result is I have a chart I can save that has exactly what I need on it and no more. I'll ususally enlarge the canvas size and paste their notes along with my comments in the same gif file... as tight and compact as I can get it without any extraneous info. Sometimes it makes the difference between me grasping the nature of something verses struggling with all the clutter and never getting the essence of what attracted me to it in the first place. MM

To: KymarFye who wrote (15075)	1/30/2002 9:32:19 PM
From: TheStockStalker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 18137

download.cnet.com This one does lots of stuff.

To: KymarFye who wrote (15075)	1/30/2002 9:42:48 PM
From: atto	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 18137

First of all, for captures, the PrintScreen key on your keyboard works just fine. You can then paste from the clipboard to an image editor (even something like Paint, which should be already on your system, under Accessories.) Save as bitmap, then use a program to convert to gif. You use gif for graphics, and jpg for pictures taken with a camera (you used the wrong format, that's why your pictures are blurry.) There are plenty of programs that can convert image formats. Go to www.download.com and type 'gif convert' or some other relevant keywords in the search box and pick the smallest program. BMPToGif works just fine. PrintScreen will capture the entire screen, you need to select a part of it, copy and paste into a separate bmp file, you can do that using Paint. If you want to try out the above mentioned Paint Shop Pro, you can get it at download.com as well (it's shareware.) Browse either download.com or tucows.com (the latter has less programs but mostly only quality stuff) for other utilities and shareware/freeware programs you might find useful. You might find some shareware wysiwyg program for creating web pages. The page you made with word (not a very good tool for that purpose) is anything but simple, and uses xml and a vml add on just to see the graphics. atto

To: KymarFye who wrote (15075)	1/30/2002 10:18:17 PM
From: TheStockStalker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 18137

KF, I hope all the post in response to my original proposal of your using a screen capture utility have not put you off. I do not know why anyone would even consider doing this in Adobe Potoshop if they are not owners of the product already (it is around 600 or 700 dollars) and I do in fact own it but never use it for charts. Furthermore, I do not know why anyone would go through the trouble of cropping in Paintbrush and then loading into a Gif converter after that is done. The whole idea is that the software I am telling you about is that is will capture exactly the user defined area you need (eliminating the cropping software) and then it will output to a GIF file or any number of formats that you may choose (eliminating yet another software). So it is the simplest route. Here is an example of one I did with the software that I linked you. As you can see it is very clear and it is in a tiny Gif file format (33k). No cropping or converting was necessary and it took a total of 2 minutes to do from capture to publish. webdesigns1.com By the way if you look at my other "chart" it was an Adobe Photoshop creation.