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To: Ramsey Su who wrote (18061)1/31/2002 2:08:28 PM
From: Yeuk-Hai Mok  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 34857
 
Well, I saw gray market GPRS handset being sold here is the SF bayarea, eventhough there is no official support for them. Motolora V66 (US$99 with 1 year contract), Ericsson T39 (US$39 with 1 year contract) and T68. These are all tri-band GSM phones and they may be have come from Europe or Asia. No idea.

When I was in HK and China before X'mas, Nokia 8310 was selling VERY WELL there with street price of around US$350. So is Motolora's V60 (~US$400) and V66 (~US$300). Ericsson T68 was doing BIG push in HK for about US$500. I have friends that have Nokia 8310 and others who have T68 but NONE of them used GPRS service. The important thing to them is that the phone is the LASTEST/COLLEST model and has the all the new features (including GPRS).
Even my non-tech savy cousin (who don't even use computer much) know what GPRS is. She have a 8310 but only use it for voice.



To: Ramsey Su who wrote (18061)1/31/2002 5:09:52 PM
From: S100  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 34857
 
Mobile & Satellite

Sonera scraps fixed charge for GPRS service
By Anne Young, Total Telecom

31 January 2002



Finnish incumbent Sonera said Thursday it has scrapped the fixed monthly connection charge for its consumer GPRS offering in a bid to boost usage of the service.

From now on, all subscribers to Sonera IN's GSM service in Finland will be able to log onto the GPRS network if they have an appropriate handset, said product manager Heikki Martinoja.

When the GPRS service was originally launched in November 2000, users had to pay a fixed charge of 99 markkaa (US$14.34). Now users will be charged for usage only, with each kilobyte of data costing 0.01 euros.

Martinoja said Sonera currently has "a couple of thousand" GPRS users, both private and corporate. He did not wish to break down the figures any further, but said the current level was "as expected."

Sonera hopes the introduction of a low-entry product will boost usage. "This is very important for WAP services," added Martinoja.

Sonera said its service also enables the reception of phone calls during a GPRS connection. The operator also said users can check their data transmission costs by sending a text message.

Sonera added that the connection charges for its Open and Pro Data services for active users and its Company Data service for corporate customers will be waived until 28 February. The per-kilobyte charge will also apply to these services in future, however.

As a further incentive, users of the Open Data service will not be charged for using Sonera's WAP services throughout 2002, the operator said in a statement.


totaltele.com

GPRS Mobile Phones to be Shipped in First Quarter
Wireless 1/29/2002

GVC's shipments of GPRS mobiles phones, projected to be carried out in the fourth quarter of last year, to Ericsson are be delayed till the first quarter of this year

Industry insiders say the shipments most likely will begin in late February or March. Large-quantity shipments, however, are not expected until the second quarter. Moreover, according to sources, GVC is in discussions with Ericsson about production of other models and is expected to produce more than two models for Ericsson in 2002.

Aside from Ericsson, Alcatel, slated to decide its Taiwanese ODMs (original design manufacturers) soon, may be another GVC client. Unlike Siemens, Alcatel does not give priority to price only but also emphasizes time-to-market. Therefore, GVC, boasting design, development and production experience, has relatively high hopes.

At an institutional investors meeting at the end of the third quarter of 2001, GVC said that it would outsource production to CEMs (contract electronics manufacturers) if its own capacity were fully booked. According to sources, this is likely to happen in the second half of 2002, given the company!|s current monthly capacity of 500,000 units.

acesuppliers.com

But phone spam will be faster

Nokia: Mobile users OK with advertising on phone
From...

January 31, 2002 Posted: 8:49 a.m. EST (1349 GMT)

By Joris Evers

(IDG) -- Mobile phone users don't mind receiving commercial text messages on their handsets according to a study commissioned by Nokia Corp., the company said Wednesday. Meanwhile, analysts warn mobile marketing could be headed south, just like e-mail marketing.

Users are not only receptive to marketing via SMS (Short Message Service) text messages, but would actively welcome commercial messages if they get something in return, a discount coupon or cheaper service, for example, the Finnish handset maker said.

More than 3,300 mobile phone users aged 16 to 45 in 11 countries, including the U.S., Brazil, UK, Sweden, Germany, Japan and Korea were interviewed in mid-2001, Nokia said. The study was done by HPI Research Group.
Eighty-six percent of the respondents said they would accept "some advertising" if it helped keep the cost of mobile services down, while 88 percent said they would not mind coupons sent via SMS. Nearly a third (31 percent) said they would actually welcome coupons on their phone, Nokia said.

Acceptance is subject to conditions, the study found. Users want to be able to bypass and filter the messages and decide whether or not to receive messages, Nokia said.

Marketing via SMS is fairly new and early adopters are getting good results, according to analyst firm Forrester Research BV in a report issued late last week. The average response rate is 11 percent, much higher than, for example, online advertising with banners.

However, SMS marketing in the long run requires careful planning and marketers shouldn't be overly excited, Forrester cautioned. Marketers should be skeptical, as another marketing channel billed as revolutionary two years ago, e-mail marketing, has now lost its effectiveness.

cnn.com



To: Ramsey Su who wrote (18061)2/1/2002 2:13:31 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander  Respond to of 34857
 
Are we there yet, are we there yet,are we there yet,are we there yet

Anyway, as one might have guessed or known, the finnish operators are now fine tuning their
networks and billing systems, ranging from

DNA (all those really small operators), monthly fee of $14, unlimited GPRS data usage
(plus a cheaper monthly variant for unlimited WAP over GPRS usage)

Sonera: No monthly nor activation fee, any camping GPRS phone is active, and the
already quoted 0.01 euro/kB, plus two plans with monthly fees and down to one
thousandth of an euro per kB cost.

The information dripping in from users is also increasing, varying ping times and download
speeds, improving all the time (starting from problems finding bluetooth drivers for win2000)

Ilmarinen

All including the VAT tax, used for education and other smart investments.

Btw, poor tax sucking students are getting more and more excited, bluetoothing their laptop
to their and others handsets and getting e-mails, exam questions and answers where ever they
are, doing the exam or out in the cafeteria or just out or in connecting.

(that is why both my GPRS handsets are out on fieldtests, difficult to get them back)



To: Ramsey Su who wrote (18061)2/2/2002 9:05:42 AM
From: Eric L  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 34857
 
Ramsey,

<< There must be close to, if not over, 100 GPRS networks in operation covering every corner of the earth by now. >>

I think that there are probably 75+ in very soft or soft launched "commercial" operation and perhaps another 30 to 50 coming on line.

Very few are marketing GPRS data aggressively yet as you know.

Networks are still being optimized and still being built out. Billing systems, messaging centers, and OTA platforms are being upgraded and a lot of handsets are still being qualified. Most importantly, beyond some basic business applications, applications and content isn't out there in sufficient quantity to encourage use by the mass consumer, and tariffs are being kept prohibitively high, partially to see what the market will bear, but also to discourage heavy usage until everything is really simpatico.

<< There must be a few million MOT and NOK GPRS handsets sold to subscribers by now. >>

It appears that 10 to 12 million GPRS handsets or WIDS or modem cards have shipped from a dozen manufacturers.

Maybe 75% of those are in users hands, but the majority are not being used with GPRS subscriptions yet.

There are probably no more than 2 million GPRS subs at this time, and that might even be a stretch.

<< Are there any reports on how well they are working? Minutes used? Popularity? ARPU? >>

They seem to be working fine, but I think a lot of product is still working through IOT.

Motorola was first out of the chute and has the broadest lineup. Anybody I've talked to says that the Timeports work fine but the feature set is pretty mundane.

Ericsson's lineup gets the best reviews. The T39, T65, and T68 are all pretty popular, and so far the T68 has garnered a lot of attention.

Nokia's 8310 is probably 2nd most popular to the T68.

Too few subs yet to impact APRU.

Since in GPRS land packet billing will be pretty universal I don't forsee much impact on MOU.

Just like 1xRTT in the States if using the terminal as a data as well as voice appliance (as opposed to using it as a modem) WAP 2.0 with color support and CSSs is almost an imperative (and its not here yet). In the GPRS world MMS will also be an imperative.

Products like Ericsson's T68 will be flash upgradable to both WAP 2.0 and MMS but that's several months out.

The push will start once WAP 2.0, MMS, some new security routines, Java support are in the clients, and the ancillary components of the network are there to support them.

Mass deployment will probably commence this fall.

I suspect we are a year away from seeing measurable impact on APRU.

<< In fact, have you used one? >>

I haven't really "used" one. Nothing in a mobile environment.

I had demos of the T39 and the PocketPC based Trium Mondo in a London shop in September.

I almost boought the tri-band T39 to replace my 4 year old Bosch worldphone (dual-band 900/1900).

One of my golf mates brought his laptop equipped with a 4+2 modem card he is beta testing over to the house a few weekends ago and we benchmarked some file transfers on VoiceStream using the card, my KYO6035, my old Bosch Worldphone, and his 9100 Communicator for comparison.

Best,

- Eric -