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To: Bilow who wrote (80852)2/2/2002 1:21:58 AM
From: The Prophet  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 93625
 
Well, I guess it was unreasonable to expect the Bilow-meister, on his own initiative, to conceded he lost his bet to me. So, I guess I'll have to do it for him.

In March 2001, Bilow bet me that RDRAM would never fall below a 36% premium over DDR. It has. Bilow is wrong. He will be wrong again. The dark side always loses.

Here are the links in case Bilow tries to find some excuse out of this one:

Message 15563091

To:Bilow who wrote (69138)
From: The Prophet Monday, Mar 26, 2001 1:49 AM
View Replies (6) | Respond to of 80855

So, since we're making predictions, let me see if I have this straight. You claim:
RDRAM > 1.5 * SDRAM
DDR = 1.1 * SDRAM

Ergo:

RDRAM > 1.36 DDR

So your prediction is that RMBS will not get cheaper than 36% more than DDR.

Alright, I'll take that bet, too. Hope you're keeping score.

siliconinvestor.com

To:The Prophet who wrote (69140)
From: Bilow Monday, Mar 26, 2001 1:56 AM
View Replies (3) | Respond to of 80855

Hi The Prophet; Okay, the only restriction is that RDRAM prices are allowed to briefly dip below that limit due to over production issues, but such gluts will not last longer than 3 months. Prices to be achieved over the next 12 months, agreed?
The anotherr issue is that Rambus longs frequently want the price of the cheapest variety of RDRAM to be compared to the most expensive variety of DDR or SDRAM. To settle that, the versions of DDR, RDRAM and SDRAM are the highest currently more or less common in shipping product. That means PC800, PC133, and PC2100, no particular latency. Agreed?

Also, these are DIMM prices, not the individual chips, and the DIMM size is to be the 256MB, which will be the most common density for SDRAM and DDR one year from now. For RDRAM, you can use either the 256MB or twice the price of the 128MB size, whichever suits your fancy, as RDRAM more frequently comes with a split bus. Agreed?

How's about average of lowest 5 prices on PriceWatch, subject to the above constraints. The reason for this that with all three memory types, there is a tendency for certain subtypes to be extraordinarily expensive. But the cheapest types are more likely to be what is natural for a PC with a relatively small size memory (i.e. not gigabytes). Agreed?

--



To: Bilow who wrote (80852)2/8/2002 10:57:47 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 93625
 
Hi all; Update on the DDR and RDRAM pricing trend... Pricewatch removed 64MB RDRAM from their system memory links. They now have 12 entries for DDR and only four entries for RDRAM:
pricewatch.com

Date     SDRAM   PC2100  PC800  PC2100 PC800  RDRAM/DDR
03/26/01 $46.20 $188.40 $306.20 +307% +562% 1.625
04/02/01 $45.20 $164.00 $293.20 +263% +549% 1.788
04/09/01 $45.00 $137.80 $281.60 +206% +526% 2.044
04/17/01 $42.00 $119.40 $257.80 +184% +514% 2.159
04/23/01 $40.00 $114.40 $246.00 +186% +515% 2.150
04/30/01 $39.40 $108.00 $224.80 +174% +471% 2.081
05/07/01 $39.00 $ 98.40 $210.00 +152% +438% 2.134
05/14/01 $38.60 $ 88.20 $198.40 +128% +414% 2.249
05/21/01 $34.80 $ 72.40 $189.80 +108% +445% 2.622
05/28/01 $33.20 $ 64.40 $184.00 + 94% +454% 2.857
06/04/01 $29.80 $ 61.80 $166.60 +107% +459% 2.696
06/11/01 $27.60 $ 57.80 $160.20 +109% +480% 2.772
06/18/01 $22.80 $ 54.00 $144.80 +137% +535% 2.681
06/25/01 $19.00 $ 49.00 $137.40 +158% +623% 2.804
06/29/01 $18.80 $ 46.60 $134.40 +148% +615% 2.884
07/07/01 $18.40 $ 45.40 $133.60 +147% +626% 2.943
07/12/01 $18.80 $ 43.20 $122.00 +130% +549% 2.824
07/19/01 $18.40 $ 39.40 $113.80 +114% +518% 2.888
07/26/01 $19.20 $ 37.40 $108.00 + 95% +462% 2.888
08/02/01 $19.00 $ 35.80 $ 97.20 + 88% +412% 2.715
08/09/01 $18.80 $ 33.60 $ 89.80 + 79% +378% 2.673
08/16/01 $16.80 $ 33.40 $ 84.40 + 99% +402% 2.527
08/24/01 $16.60 $ 31.80 $ 78.40 + 92% +372% 2.465
08/31/01 $16.60 $ 31.20 $ 77.00 + 88% +364% 2.468
09/08/01 $16.20 $ 29.80 $ 78.40 + 84% +384% 2.631
09/17/01 $16.00 $ 29.60 $ 79.80 + 85% +399% 2.696
09/23/01 $16.00 $ 28.40 $ 82.00 + 78% +412% 2.887
09/28/01 $14.80 $ 27.00 $ 82.60 + 82% +458% 3.059
10/05/01 $13.80 $ 26.00 $ 82.60 + 88% +499% 3.177
10/12/01 $13.00 $ 24.40 $ 83.80 + 88% +545% 3.434
10/19/01 $11.80 $ 23.40 $ 84.60 + 98% +617% 3.615
10/26/01 $10.00 $ 22.20 $ 84.20 +122% +742% 3.793
11/02/01 $10.20 $ 22.00 $ 83.20 +116% +716% 3.782
11/09/01 $13.60 $ 23.00 $ 82.20 + 69% +504% 3.574
11/16/01 $19.20 $ 29.00 $ 82.40 + 51% +329% 2.841
11/23/01 $18.60 $ 31.60 $ 80.40 + 70% +332% 2.544
11/30/01 $16.60 $ 35.60 $ 79.20 +114% +350% 2.225
12/07/01 $19.80 $ 44.00 $ 77.00 +122% +289% 1.750
12/14/01 $18.60 $ 47.40 $ 76.00 +155% +309% 1.603
12/21/01 $18.20 $ 49.20 $ 74.20 +170% +308% 1.508
12/28/01 $22.40 $ 51.40 $ 73.60 +129% +229% 1.432
01/04/02 $30.00 $ 53.80 $ 72.60 + 79% +142% 1.349
01/11/02 $36.80 $ 60.00 $ 74.20 + 63% +102% 1.237
01/18/02 $33.60 $ 56.40 $ 73.80 + 68% +120% 1.309
01/25/02 $32.60 $ 54.00 $ 73.60 + 66% +126% 1.363
02/01/02 $31.60 $ 49.40 $ 72.00 + 56% +128% 1.457
02/08/02 $35.60 $ 55.80 $ 70.60 + 57% + 98% 1.265


-- Carl

P.S. Old data: #reply-16998188

New data from pricewatch:

PC133: $ 35, 35, 36, 36, 36 --> $ 35.60
PC2100: $ 53, 54, 57, 57, 58 --> $ 55.80
PC800: $ 69, 70, 70, 72, 72 --> $ 70.60