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To: d[-_-]b who wrote (142310)	2/4/2002 12:13:49 PM
From: Alighieri	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1578652

If a drunk driver kills someone do you blame the bottle or the driver? In the case of guns you're just so upset they do there job you can't seem to figure out that the one to blame is the person pulling the trigger. Yes...but a car's intended purpose is transportation, not weaponry. Still we regulate and make it illegal to DWI...we also make it illegal to drive without a license. re: Why is it the NRA is against safeties on guns? All guns have safeties already. The IRA is openly against smart safeties and gun makers who have implemented smart safeties have become the target of NRA ire and have faced bankruptcy. re: Why is it the NRA will fight any legislation that even hints at restrictions placed on gun owners? The owners you speak of rarely kill anyone. Or did the fact that even the English now seem to realize the "Criminal underworld seems to ignore those laws about handguns". What's your point. We don't deregulate crimes because criminals ignore it. The NRA opposes any and all gun control legislation, making it easier for non law abiding citizens to obtain guns. You could argue that the NRA is directly responsible for all gun crimes committed by known felons who have obtained a gun through legal means. Al

To: d[-_-]b who wrote (142310)	2/4/2002 4:40:04 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1578652

If a drunk driver kills someone do you blame the bottle or the driver? In the case of guns you're just so upset they do there job you can't seem to figure out that the one to blame is the person pulling the trigger. Both.......I firmly believe in the concept of designated drivers and removing a drunk's license as well developing a ID system that will deny sales of alcohol to people with prior violations. But even a drunk driver is not nearly as effective and as efficient at killing as a gun. re: Why is it the NRA is against safeties on guns? All guns have safeties already. In one of the links I provided you, there was a discussion re legislation that pushed for safeties on guns which the NRA opposed........ Was that someone's fabrication? re: Why does the NRA ignore the huge differences in the rates of gun violence in this country vs those of our peers, and instead tries to distort their numbers so they look nearly as bad as we do with all their gun control laws? You're ignoring this issue by focusing on law abiding citizens instead of the criminals that are using guns to kill people. Again, why does the NRA [and you]ignore the fact that the level of gun violence and deaths is so much greater than our peers? And NRA [and you] also seem very eager to ignore the possibility that a culture with lax gun laws may beget a culture that has high levels of violence. And if the NRA believes that its members and law abiding citizens are not the problem, why does it fight gun control laws that should not effect its members with such zeal? After all, the "good" citizens" and NRA members should encounter no problems in securing their weapons. And for the record, law abiding citizens do kill with guns.....mostly by accident but also at times in the heat of passion.......they are mostly law abiding but not always. re: Why does the NRA turn their collective back on all the gun deaths in this country? They are the premier gun safety educators in the entire world. Why do continue to ignore the fact it's criminals killing people not NRA members? If that were true, we would have not accidental shootings, school schootings and acts-of-passion shootings by adults. Criminals have their fair share of killings but killings are not exclusive to them. re: And please don't cite the second amendment..... Faced with facts that just don't jibe with your made for CNN headline news opinions of the world. Sorry but I gave you facts, not CNN headlines. If the NRA were the fine organization your posts would have us believe, then they would be working actively to restrict killings by guns through gun control laws and other means. Educating a small group of people on the proper usage of a gun is a very small piece in the huge effort needed to reduce the level of gun violence in this country.