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To: Dennis O'Bell who wrote (18097)	2/5/2002 9:46:14 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

>>It's become fashionable to talk up this latest "elimination of Israel" demographic angle, but people who want Jews off the planet never run out of arguments where that's concerned. A lot can and will happen in 20 years, and the demographic angle is one of the lesser risks at the present time.<< Well, I don't want Jews off the planet, so let's get that right out in the open. I want all Jews to live and be happy. However, I wouldn't have a lot of sympathy for an argument that Christians ought to have their own nation, or Hindus, or Muslims. If you want to run a country on that basis, don't ask me to support you. I oppose the attempts of the Religious Right to force this country into a Christian mold, as well. Nor do I have a lot of sympathy for an argument that white people ought to have their own nation, or black people, or Asians, nor any other ethnic group. If you want to run a country on that basis, don't ask me to support it. I've already expressed my point of view that the Palestinians have at least an equal, if not superior, claim to the land which is now Israel because they were there longer than the Jews qua Jews, and more recently. Here in the US, we are learning how to get along with each other. On my block, starting from the right and working left is a gay white man, my white nuclear family, another white nuclear family, a black extended family, a Middle Eastern extended family, and a Chinese nuclear family. Directly across the street is a black single woman, and a white single woman, then white nuclear family, and a Vietnamese nuclear family. I have no idea what religion any of them practice, nor do I want to. This is democracy in action. To claim on the one hand to be democratic, and on the other hand to want a Jewish state, is to lie to oneself, and to others. It is racism, IMO. Israel is a sovereign nation and can conduct itself however it is able to, but I protest my tax dollars supporting racism. Don't bug me about moral equivalence with the Palestinians, my tax dollars don't support their military. I don't think much of Pat Buchanan, but I do think it's ironic that Israelis seem to be making the same arguments he does in his new book, "Death of the West." Ironic only because of the argument during the 2000 election debacle that little old Jewish women in Palm Beach would never have voted for Buchanan because he's a Nazi. Not that I don't think Jewish people in the US are pro-civil rights. They are. I just don't see the Palestinian civil rights movement getting very far in Israel. Having grown up in the Jim Crow segregated south, listening to arguments about "those people are animals" makes me want to hurl. Which reminds me, Pat is on with Alan Keyes at 10:00 EDT tonight. I am going to go throw popcorn at the screen, so sayonara.