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To: AmericanVoter who wrote (504)	2/6/2002 12:51:51 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 758

Amein. You said in this post Message 16993793 ...." If I haven't studied the Quran because I really don't have the time to, I surely don't have the time to study the satanic verses"... Then you say to me...." finally Lorne, I suggest that you read more about Quran before making such baseless statements and accusations about what the Quran teaches Muslims to do"... Amein, it is you who is promoting islam/muslim here not I so I do not need to read or study the quran I only really need to see what muslims do to their fellow humans to get an understanding of muslim/islam. 1) I watched as two passenger jets loaded with innocent people were crashed into the WTC by muslims/islam. 2)I saw where the passenger jet loaded with innocent passengers was crashed into the Pentagon by muslims/islam. 3) I saw where the passenger jet loaded with innocent passengers was crashed into the ground by muslims/islam. 4) I saw on TV where three little girls had their mother shot before their eyes by taliban muslims/islam, and when asked what the taliban men did to them for three days they were afraid to say and just cried. 5)I watched on TV when muslims/islam danced in the streets when they learned of the WTC and how many innocent people were killed. 6) I watched on TV a poor women was being executed in the middle of a soccer field by muslims/islam for entertainment. 7) I saw on TV the men hanging from goal posts in a soccer field..More muslim/islam entertainment. 8) I watch on the news everyday stories of more innocent people being massacered by muslims/islam. 9) I have seen pictures of barrels of newly amputated hands and feet of people that the taliban say stole food. More muslim/islam entertainment? 10) I have read some things from the muslim quran that tell the faithful to kill unbelievers. 11) I have watched the bin laden tapes where he states American freedom is doomed...he is a muslim/islam OK Amein, tell me which of the above statements are baseless? And tell me why I should read more of a book that all muslims/islam believe. Do I or anyone else need more proof of what muslims have done to innocent people. Amein. can you give me one good reason why I should think differently about Muslim/islam?? I will never understand how any muslim/islam could feel anything but shame for the religion they belong to. Lorne

To: AmericanVoter who wrote (504)	2/6/2002 7:18:09 PM
From: IN_GOD_I_TRUST	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 758

Amein, You said, "when someone baselessly rejects the explanations based on the reasons of the verses... it surely makes anyone with brains wonder why...?" Who do you refer too? I have been discussing these verses with you, and showed you basis why your explanation and interpretations are flawed. Here are examples: siliconinvestor.com siliconinvestor.com In this exchange, and all the posts previous to them (which for time sake I did not reference in this post) I showed you clearly why the explanation of this verse you gave was illogical, and clearly not right. You came back and thanked me to agree to disagree. Is this an example of someone baselessly rejecting explanations? If anyone is baselessly rejecting explanation, aren't you rejecting my explanation? And I must say for no good reason, when my explanation makes perfect sense to everyone, except maybe you. Next example: siliconinvestor.com We were in the middle of exploring a verse, and you never replied to it. Where is a baseless rejection of an explanation, when you never finished explaining the verse so a interpretation can be rejected or accepted? You haven't proven anything about the killing of pagans in the verse we were discussing. Next example: Message 16998206 You make the statement the Quran is unaltered for 1400 years ago. I show you documented evidence to show you are not correct. Who baselessly rejected evidence here? And next: Message 16993793 I tell you I could show you information, without ever reading any book, of the Satanic verses in the Quran. You state, "if I haven't studied the Quran because I really don't have the time to, I surely don't have the time to study the satanic verses." Well you should make the time if you truly want to defend the Quran, shouldn't you? You are baselessly accepting the Quran and commentaries about the Satanic verses (and all Islamic scripture for that matter) without fully studying them, but then claiming people are baselessly rejecting explanations who are willing, and do study them, like myself. You see my point? Please stay open minded as I continually remind myself to. You admit you have not studied the Quran completely, but have fully accepted it. Is that not baselessly accepting something? God Bless, IGIT