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To: wanna_bmw who wrote (70957)	2/7/2002 6:12:16 PM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 275872

wbmw, The same team working on Banias also worked on Timna, which was a completely finished product before it became apparent that the only memory technology supported by the integrated memory controller (everyone's beloved RDRAM) was never going to be widely accepted by the market. I think the product had other problems as well. Lack of performance, or should I say lack of MHz. It was below regular Coppermine, and it was at the time Coppermine was getting completely blown away by Athlon. Even if they got it up to 800 to 900 MHz range, it is too little too late, since you can buy Duron and Celeron in 1 GHz to 1.3 GHz for peanuts. Also, shrinking an integrated product such as Timna to newer process technologies must be more complicated than regular non-integrated CPUs. Joe

To: wanna_bmw who wrote (70957)	2/7/2002 6:20:20 PM
From: ptanner	Respond to of 275872

wbmw, re: "All that I can say is that if you are expecting a loss due to the race of the people creating the product, then I hope you are unpleasantly surprised at the launch." I took Constantine's post very differently as being a case where the organization of the production and control locations was the reason for the challenges rather than the race of the producers. However, I will leave this for Constantine to elaborate. -PT