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To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (70982)2/7/2002 7:42:58 PM
From: milo_moraiRead Replies (3) | Respond to of 275872
 
<font color=red>Is SUN about to sell Dual Athlon's?

sun.com

The program, announced Thursday, comprises three ambitious goals to be met in the coming year.

Sun will ship for the first time a full implementation of Linux on a new line of general-purpose servers aimed at providing "edge" services to environments such as workgroups and remote offices. New single- and multiprocessor systems, to be announced mid-year, will use the x86 architecture and be capable of running thousands of Linux applications natively.
Sun will dramatically expand its line of Sun Cobalt[tm] Linux appliances, the world's leading Linux-based appliance systems. Look for innovations beyond the current eight-inch-square Qube[tm] and the 1.75-inch-high rack-mountable configurations. Sun's Cobalt server appliances start around $1000 and have an installed base of more than 100,000 units.
Sun plans to participate more aggressively in the Linux developer community by freely offering key components of its Solaris[tm] operating environment software, and by releasing tools to help developers ensure compatibility between the two Unix[R] derivatives.


TMF post says boards.fool.com

BTW According to someone I know who was at the announcement, this stuff (coming in 4-5 months) is on AMD CPUs... This is dual proc stuff too. This will mean that of all the companies shipping AMD based servers, Sun will be the biggest and most well known. I would have thought that Sun might well have gone for Intel based servers to be more "politically" friendly with customers but maybe they decided that (a) they don't want to help Intel and (b) that a customer willing to make the leap of faith of running Linux is much less likely to quibble about the CPU brand. And (c), well the AMD CPUs are better anyway.

It's kinda interesting that this stuff will be appearing in a similar time frame to the (rumoured) arrival of Sun's UltraSPARC-IIIi. The US3i will certainly pack a powerful punch as a low-cost, high performance CPU from Sun, but will still be a fair bit more expensive than the AthlonMP. Sun's US2e is cheap (and perfect for blade servers), but not particularly powerful, and isn't multi-processor capable either.

Maybe Sun hope to compliment their current stuff, and also sell the new stuff stand-alone to previously 100% (or near so) Windows customers, who might feel less nervous about x86 CPUs than SPARC, and where US3i will be a bit too expensive.


Hope it's true, if so it will be HUGE!!!

M.



To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (70982)2/7/2002 9:07:20 PM
From: ElmerRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
I also think that performance was the larger problem. I think AMD forced Intel to push the low end performance far past what was anticipated for Timna. I don't believe they would have killed an entire design based on a memory controller alone if the design had a performance advantage. On this issue, I don't believe Intel. It's as simple as that.

I guess there's no limit to how many times you can be wrong.

EP