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To: Terry Whitman who wrote (150786)	2/12/2002 10:17:32 AM
From: SouthFloridaGuy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

So given that the stock market made a significant top in January, can I extrapolate that the economic top was at that time as well and we are heading for a double dip? Why not? Skewed data from September/October, due to 9/11, could create the impression of a comeback, even though if one looks at the face of it, we're no better off today than we were in August. The Japanese market has had upwards of 9 "bull moves" of over 20% since 1990, obviously to no significance. Tops, bottoms, it's all a matter of perspective, that's what you don't understand.

To: Terry Whitman who wrote (150786)	2/12/2002 1:36:53 PM
From: Skeeter Bug	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 436258

>>Some leading indicators are interest rates, liquidity, and the stock market of course..<< 1. interest rates. not always. check japan. 2. liquidity. it is required for stocks to go up, although the presence of liquidity doesn't mean stocks go up. investor sentiment is key. 3. stock market. i can only laugh here. sometime it is, sometimes it isn't. i've seen plenty of stocks zoom up on poor fundamentals. guess what? fundamentals eventually caught up - EVERY SINGLE TIME. i admit it often takes a while, though. i think a nice recovery here would be 180 deg opposite of what history tells us loud and clear - bubbles ALWAYS end badly. very badly. hey, i hope i'm wrong, but one of my grandparents was from missouri - this economy must show me, first. good luck and keep a close eye on the markets - long or short.