The "No Good No Evil" Trick....
>>Frederick,
I will reply a little later today. However:
If the ego did not divide things into good and evil, such "classifications" would not exist. There is NOTHING intrinsically good or evil about anything, at root. It all arises in God.>>
This is sleight of hand at it's highest. And the authors of this LIE are the spirits from Hell.
As long as the good vs. evil split keeps mankind in the bondage of fear - as long as "Hell Happens" - then these spirits can continue to express themsevles through the Old Style egoic "Wizard of Oz" good vs. fear Black Hole wrestling fight and slugfest.......
And you bet this kind of division is "egoically" mad and insane, but this DOES NOT MEAN THAT GOOD AND EVIL DO NOT EXIST.
I know you and all us us want to stop fighting, too. But simply stating that good and evil DO NOT EXIST is like asking us to believe in the tooth fairy. I have a great imagination James and I can fly with the Tooth Fairy, too, but I also know when to come back down to earth. Worse, since it's the same as saying we DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE and if this is coming from Adi Da, then we must BE ONE with Adi Da's Tooth Fairy's.
Just because the ego, by definition, is insanely disconnected from the truth - THE END - does not mean that any notion of truth it attempts to spin - like this mad max Wizard of Oz good vs. evil fight - is not originally sourced ie. connected - to THE END which is where all truth comes from.
Remember, even evil is created by God for ONE reason - so that we can have a free will and experience FREEDOM so that we can receive and share and celebrate the unconditionally infinite gifts of His Love.
>>If you insist that EVERYTHING is classified into good and evil, you are overlaying the ego's BS onto the Divine.>>
Nope!!
I am actually embracing the truth of my Divine soul for I HAVE A CHOICE between good and evil and by proclaiming the existence of this CHOICE I am proclaiming the truth behind the mystery of FREEDOM and FREE WILL.
If I did not have a choice then nothing would matter!! If I did not have a choice then good and evil would not exist. And if I want to to get really, really insanely mad about defending this position I can turn that back on myself and others by saying since everything is of God, by God, for God, with God and in God then I can buy into another Wizard of Oz illusion/lie that says I therefore NOT FREE since there is nothing to chose from.
This is coming from the same spirits that worship the same egoically derived God which is the exact reason we are on sharing on this thread trying to answer an unanswerable question "Should God be Replace?"
Contrary to what Adi may believe, stating that good and evil exist does NOT have to involve placing, defining, restricting and controlling BS conditions that worship the relative, limited egoic God..
For this is like saying EVERYTHING must first arise in EGO, by EGO, for EGO, with EGO and be of EGO for it to exist or NOT exist.
>>If you are suggesting free will is only for the purpose of making a choice between good and evil, you make a total MOCKERY of what you have been espousing here about BEING LOVE.>>
The unconditional love of our ONE Lord God in Heaven DOES make a total MOCKERY of what mankind understands as Love for mankind is coming from a natural conditional, relative understanding that believes in limits, etc.
The LOVE of our Father in Heaven is pefect, pure and unconditional. It does not ask or demand conditions, restrictions or limitations as a precondition for loving us.
>>BEING LOVE has nothing to do with making a choice between good and evil.>
This neutral BEING LOVE can be distilled in ONE phrase "ANYTHING GOES!!!" Which is the same as saying "NOTHING MATTERS."
This is a pretty dark and cynical sleight of hand being pulled off here. I don't buy into this insanity. >>On this subject, Frederick, you are lining up with Greg and overlaying Swedenborg or some guilty Christian mysticism.>>
No, the good Old Style Christianity and Religion Wizard of Oz show has already been transcended. Mankind has transcended the majority of it's BS. Remember this Wizard of Oz BS of smoke, fire and fear was derived directly from these same spirits from Hell that have to express themselves someway. And as long as mankind bought into a conditional fear-based understanding of religion then that's fine.
But we aren't talking about mankind's religion. We are talking about our ONE Lord Father in Heaven and the humble, simple fear of God that is the catalyst for each individual to know and understand that we all are FREE to make a choice between good and evil, etc.
The difference is that if we egoically think/believe "we" are the controlling, crediting source of this FREEDOM, this truth, this good etc. we are simply back in the same ole, same ole model that mankind seeks to define, label, limit and control in order to enslave more souls.
>>I am always already either "good" or "evil" just ain't true. But "arising in God" is!>>
1) First the End - "arising in God...."
2) Second the Cause - "spiritual tansmission of His energy, light and love...."
3) Third the Effect - "the natural or spiritual reception through the conduit of FREE CHOICE from a FREE WILL"
You need THREE to complete-fullfill the model of His Love.
Mankind's choice to express His unconditional light, energy and Love in these natural, conditional and limited ways is "an effect" which is based on what we chose to will - ie. love - which has to be in synch with what we chose to understand as being true.
Just saying that "everything arises in God and is God" cuts off steps 2 and 3. This is akin to the same egoic insanity that seeks to claim the position of God.
God arises in ALL of us. To the extent to which we chose to believe this is the extent to which we arise in Him, by Him for Him, with Him and of Him.
There's a critical step that involves CHOICE which involves the understanding that we are truly FREE to chose and no longer bound and enslaved by the NO CHOICE - NO FREEDOM - insanity of our egoic unreality.
We must acknowledge the existence of good and evil and then make choice to believe that we can "arise in God" before we can truly allow Him to restore, regenerate and reflect the truth of His energy, light and Love through each one of us.
This "choice" involves acknowleding that all goodness, all light, all energy and all Love have to come from only ONE source which is our ONE Lord God in Heaven who I accept and know as Jesus Christ Lord. He comes the THREE as ONE in a model of perfect Love which every single individual can be part of in this world.
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