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To: JohnM who wrote (18935)	2/15/2002 10:38:40 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 281500

Yes, thanks to 911 he could do something, the problem is just what?? (hey, he already agreed with his dad's ozon guys!, in his little way)

To: JohnM who wrote (18935)	2/15/2002 10:55:46 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

...the willingness of US public opinion to stomach something as dramatic as an invasion. If they try to do it without some triggering event, some very large triggering event that can be linked to Saddam, then I predict we will go back to Vietnam style opposition at home and a one-term Bush presidency I do believe that Sept 11th marked a change in public opinion, John. People are receptive now to the case against Saddam. And destroying a muderous tyrant like Saddam makes a far more compelling case than the abstractions of the domino theory in South East Asia. Also, Vietnam style opposition only started some years after we went into Vietnam. The campaign against Iraq would not take years -- it's utterly lopsided from a military point of view. And Saddam certainly does not have widespread popular support, nor funding from an outside superpower, nor any jungles to hide in. The real question is of costs, casualties, PR ramifications, and of course, what to do the day after.

To: JohnM who wrote (18935)	2/16/2002 7:44:52 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

>>If they try to do it without some triggering event, some very large triggering event that can be linked to Saddam, then I predict we will go back to Vietnam style opposition at home and a one-term Bush presidency.<< I agree with you, John, but I think that Nadine is right, too, that it looks as if we are going to do it, based on nothing more than what we have now, which I think is wrong. Not only wrong, but stupid - Cheney is saying our allies will back us, but the way I read it, Russia, the EU, Great Britain, and Canada are opposed to it, not to mention Saudi Arabia. Who does that leave? Israel? If we do it, I will vote Democrat from now on - if you knew me you'd know what a step that would be. I am getting pretty sick of the war hawks.