To: waverider who wrote (113534 ) 2/17/2002 4:17:50 PM From: Maurice Winn Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 152472 <Actually Mq, I have more respect for the kids. They aren't as manic as you seem to think. > WR, I know what I see. Our youngest [17] has had 5 cellphones in 2 years [I paid for two of them]. Our oldest [25] has had 5 in about 5 years [I paid for one of them]. I've had 4 in 5 years [company phone before that] but I'm a crazed cellphone obsessive [in the old age group] and bought a CDMA phone in the USA for a couple of week's use. My wife has had one [in 3 years] and insisted she didn't need one but would cause problems if it was taken away. Says she doesn't want an upgrade. Our two other daughters have had 2 each in two years. I've seen plenty of young people with cellphones and I think crazed is an accurate description. I think you miss the point here: <A frenzy...a consumer, technological gadget frenzy. Just what we need. I guess the lessons of 9/11 concerning the value of people over things were short lived. > Think about what people are doing with their cellphones. Are they valuing people over things? No, they are using things [phones] to stay in close communication with people. They are valuing people really highly. The crazed young ones are prepared to sacrifice a LOT to stay in contact via cellphone. They would rather have cellphone contact than other things which they can only use themselves. That's what I see. What I get through hearsay is that the same thing is happening worldwide and that there are now nearly 120 million people using CDMA phones flat out. Just as the slums around the world have tv aerials sprouting, I think you'll find cellphones are even more appealing. People value people and communication very highly. They'll eat first, get warm, get dry, then buy a cellphone, then get married, then work more, feed children, who will buy a cellphone ... It's Maslow's hierarchy of needs. valdosta.edu Cellphones are at the bottom of the pyramid, more basic than food really [in today's world where most people can do without a few calories in the interests of maintaining communications - I'm only partly kidding there] and enable the self-actualisation to be improved. Actually, looking at that Maslow list again, cellphones fit in from the bottom to the top [physiological = ability to hear], safety [we all know how useful cellphones are - think SnapTrack, calls for help and the 911 Federal requirement and the part cellphones played in the WTC 911], belongingness, esteem, need to know and understand, aesthetics of the phone, self-actualization and transcendence too [It is in the process of being created and a cellphone is It in our hands - omniscience and omnipotence in our hands is being created - in a word, a hotline to God]. Now I really understand the frenzy for phones. Check out Maslow and how cellphones fit in. They are even more fundamental to life than I'd realized. Wow! This is going to be a LOT of fun. Mq