To: elmatador who wrote (15596 ) 2/24/2002 8:27:42 PM From: Maurice Winn Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 74559 <Canada and Australia are the other ones ripe for mass migration too. A Canada with 140 million people and an Australia with 80 million would do the job. > What is the job which needs doing? Some people say that large population is needed for economies of scale to achieve wealth, but Luxembourg, Switzerland and Singapore give the lie to that and India, Pakistan, Indonesia, Nigeria, Bangladesh and China show that a large population has nothing to do with wealth. Also, "people" are not fungible. Importing 50 million barbarians to Australia would make Australia look like the place the barbarians left. So, if the barbarians arrive from Nigeria, pretty soon Australia would have the economy and mayhem rate of Nigeria. Which is not what Australians want. They have plenty of mayhem already, without importing more. If they ship in 50 million Indonesians, they'll have Moslem Mullahs wailing at the wall and hacking off hands, heads and stuff if the dreaded Quran is not knelt before while pointing to Mecca. It was bad enough bringing in culturally-similar Poms, who immediately got themselves into union leadership positions and went on strike every other day. Turning Oz into Mecca-of-the-South would not get Oz to Fifth-Dan on the road to Nirvana. So, just what is this "job" which you think needs doing? Similarly, 100 million newbies in Canada might not be ideal for the local population. On the other hand, importing people from somewhere else is an easy way of colonizing them [if it stays manageable]. They then have no choice but to use the local laws. With sensible selection processes, it would make occupation of the wayward distant lands very easy - train people from those wayward places [such as Afghanistan] in the modern ways of the world, then, when the time is ripe, ship them back to take over. Maybe you have a point. Mqurice