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To: Charles Gryba who wrote (160037)	2/25/2002 11:22:28 AM
From: wanna_bmw	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

Constantine, Re: "out I counted more than 50% wins for the XP 2000+ vs the P4 2000A @ 533 and even some wins against the 2200A" Neither the 2000A nor 2200A were using the faster 533MHz bus or memory. Only the 2400A and higher speeds. Re: "If I were you I would re-examine the article and see that the P4 is the loser when compared to a similar rated Athlon XP." Where is Thoroughbred? AMD needs it to get faster than the 2000+. Also, were you able to catch this: "Here, we'd like to make a general observation about the benchmark tests: used together with a 533 MHz memory clock, the performance of the Pentium 4 increases accordingly in all categories. By comparison, the growth in performance for the AMD processors, in conjunction with the VIA KT333 chipset, is relatively small. This fact is partially due to the DDR333 memory modules that we used, which did not work in CL2.0 mode. So, now it can already be determined that, in the future, AMD processors (Athlon XP/MP) will not make such big leaps in performance based on an increase in core clock speed alone." I'd say that right now, the Athlon is dead in the water - that is, unless they can really get their .13u process out there, and crank up the clock frequencies. Otherwise, Intel will continue to make considerable gains. This should cause concern with AMD investors, as these gains can already be realized using the headroom in the Northwood core, as well as on the front side bus and memory bus of currently available chipsets. wbmw

To: Charles Gryba who wrote (160037)	2/25/2002 1:12:03 PM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Grub - Re: "out I counted more than 50% wins for the XP 2000+ vs the P4 2000A @ 533 and even some wins against the 2200A and 2400a @ 533. Of course you did not expect the 2000+ to beat a 2.6Ghz P4 @ 533 did you? If I were you I would re-examine the article and see that the P4 is the loser when compared to a similar rated Athlon XP." Careful, Grub. Tom Pabst used 166 MHz/333 MHz Clocking for the AthWiper memory bus - a detail that he didn't seem to expound upon. So what you saw were unavailable AthWiper PCs with overclocked memory compared to unavailable (but coming soon !) Intel PCs with faster FSBs and memory subsystems.