Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (19962)	2/25/2002 2:58:37 PM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Great find, Nadine, especially in view of this morning's discussion! The old story, the "haves and have nots".... But, that said, wonder just what "special something" influenced 3 centuries of immigrant Americans to work 2 and sometimes 3 jobs concurrently, raise and educate their families, and earn respected places in America's history. As America was settled by people from so many other countries of the world, what made these people succeed, and some not.... America offers so many more opportunities than it did when it was founded. Is it possible that so many have been taught that they don't need to work....they can just take what they want....and take it now? The article you referenced referred to a particular youth (or groups of young people) who are so impatient to "join in and become somebody even it is to become a terrorist or "terrorist wantabe"....) What is it that propels a person to become for instance...a Booker T Washington, Henry Ford, and so many others, versus a Charles Manson, or Sirhan Sirhan, (and unfortunately, etc).... ins.usdoj.gov A most useful resource from the INS on History, Genealogy and Education

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (19962)	2/25/2002 8:24:54 PM
From: SirRealist	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

That is a very interesting perspective I had not given enough thought to, Nadine. I had gathered that some European nations seemed to spawn the terrorists arriving from the Muslim nations, but wasn't sure why. The comparison with our (mostly) Mexican immigrants from south of the border is a comparative that makes sense, though we generally don't find Catholic priests advocating holy wars of violence. Marginalization occurs here, too, to some degree, particularly with those who struggle with our language or work the migrant farm circuit. That alone, is not an explanation of the violence perpetrated, but I'm sure it adds fuel to the fire lit and spread by haters.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (19962)	2/25/2002 9:50:33 PM
From: frankw1900	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Nadine: latimes.com latimes.com THE WORLD Bias Breeds Bitterness, French Muslims Warn Culture: Post-9/11 climate makes life even more difficult. 'How do we fit into a society that despises us?' one asks. By MORT ROSENBLUM ASSOCIATED PRESS February 24 2002 AULNAY-SOUS-BOIS, France -- A hulking tin-sided factory that once made brake parts is now a holy place. Each Friday, Muslims file inside to escape for a while from a world they see turning against them. "We are the enemy," said Munir Mouiseddine, 24, a skilled maintenance technician with no job. "It was bad enough before. Since Sept. 11, it is impossible. How are we supposed to earn a living?" He graduated first in his engineering class of 60. But at job interviews, he is told vacancies have been filled. "As soon as they see my Arab face, I'm out," he said. "That makes you jealous, bitter, desperate." Another young Muslim in Aulnay's immigrant quarter, who would call himself only Abdul, repeated the lament: "How do we fit into a society that despises us?" Social workers say racism is a significant part of the problem, and is being worsened by the terrorism scare. [More at URL]