To: gregor who wrote (3613 ) 3/2/2002 4:49:38 PM From: Jane Hafker Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 14396 Yes to all your words. Also, my time problem is compounded by no internet at home right now until I go back to work and pay off my little place in the middle of nowhere in Idaho. LOVE IT!!! The scripture paraphrased by Paul is probably in something other than Romans--I never go there for some reason., "If anyone comes to you preaching any Jesus other than (Him crucified and as presented in the writings of those who knew himK) have nothing to do with it even though it isj an angel saying it. I'll find it for you, but am stuck at the Library with a few minutes left here. Remember the other thing I told ;you that NOONE in the world ever mentions? When Peter WARNS people to be VERY careful following Paul too closely? Read for yourself, the last couple of verses in Peter II. Also, poor beloved John, Jesus's best friend never, as we like to say, "demanded to be the biggest big shot in Heaven". Using your strongs concordance, the exact words say this: Jesus warns he is going to be killed but it will be his glory. John immediately panicks and begs Jesus to allow John AND his brother to go with Him, and thereby probably participate IN HIS DEATH ALSO. Jesus simplly says He cannot grant that wish as that is up to the Father only. As Disraeli once said, "Things are not always as they appear to be." So it is in rare occasion even within the Kingdom and t he most earnest of followers. Any rebuttal to the John thing must be done with strict adherence to the actual meanings in the old Greek, or I won't even listen. (I think John is pleased someone somewhere in 2000 years is finally trying to mention that he was not actually a meglomaniac power tripper, as presented in sermon after sermon here on earth.) have ot go. :)