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To: jcky who wrote (970)	3/3/2002 3:24:23 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

That is a very stirring testimony of faith....LOL! The intelligence is not an attribute of the thing, it is what shapes the development of the thing. Your second sentence is an unprovable testimonial, your third sentence merely a non sequitur. Since I have argued this point for a couple of days at some length, you will forgive me if I do not reiterate all of the points made. The summary: people point to things like the Great Monkey thesis to prove that randomness can create order. The problem is that the kind of order created in the Great Monkey thesis is apparent, not real, by reading a pattern into a random juxtaposition of elements. Therefore, it is a fallacy. The kind of systems that are generated among living beings are real, or they don't work, and they depend upon interactions of such complexity, including among different systems, and calibrations of such refinement, that mere random mutation could not possibly create them. The individual elements only work within these complex systems, and the systems require roughly simultaneous development and nuanced connections. Mutation is too blunt an instrument, by itself. It is like depending upon the forces of nature not merely to make diamonds, but to make a diamond studded tiara.......