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To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (73686)	3/6/2002 10:21:51 AM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

ATI A3 and A4 at CeBIT [8:59 am] Gavric We received a word about ATI joining the company of Intel, VIA and SIS willing to demonstrate their new chipsets at CeBIT. ATI is expected to introduce two products at once – A3 and A4 chipsets. Both these chipsets will have similar characteristics, the only difference will be CPU types they support. A3 is intended for both Pentium III and Athlon family, and A4 is designed for Pentium 4 CPUs only. These chipsets have an integrated graphics engine based on RADEON 7000 (RADEON VE) architecture. The graphics SMA engine will use from 4 to 64MB of system memory for graphics data. The chipsets will also support external AGP 4x graphics cards. As system memory ATI chipsets will support PC2100/CP1600 DDR SDRAM. All the other characteristics of A3 and A4 look rather usual: ATA-100 support, AC’97 sound and 4USB 1.1 ports implemented by a South Bridge from ALi to be used together with North Bridges from ATI. At CeBIT ATI will also show mainboards based on A3 and A4. Description of the first products of the kind are already available in the web, for example at PCPartner. The major partner of ATI to use A3 and A4 chipsets will most probably become FIC. xbitlabs.com

To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (73686)	3/6/2002 12:00:42 PM
From: wanna_bmw	Read Replies (6) \| Respond to of 275872

Thread, why endorse posts like this by this guy Pravin? Not a single person responded to contradict the notion that I might be supplying a different viewpoint. I really don't think my posts amount to FUD, since I give plenty of credibility to both sides. Am I more pro-Intel? Yes. But do I only bash AMD? Certainly not. Pravin just doesn't like to be told different opinions, and that's too bad. Especially since there are 10x more AMD positive posts than there are Intel positive posts, as well as 10x more Intel negative posts, than AMD negative posts here. That's why it's funny that the posts that I make threaten him enough to have put me on ignore. Sorry for disturbing the pretty glass house that some people like to live in, but if other people feel the same way, then that's kind of sad. If this thread really liked to believe it was objective, then I wouldn't get all the garbage dumped on me that I do every day without a single person stepping up to defend me. I'll accept the fact that I may be wrong about some of my beliefs, but I also want to keep an open mind. I just need a little more convincing, but apparently people get angry at the fact that I am not immediately swayed to AMD - like I'm either stupid, or I'm an Intel employee hired to spread FUD on an Internet forum. LOL. Already, I look at AMD in a lot different way than I did a year ago. I'll probably change a lot of my opinions, but no one wants to even bother. If all I am is a FUDster to everyone, then it really isn't worth my time to be here. I like having a two way conversation, not a one-way bashing. So people here have to choose whether they want that kind of discussion, or if discussions that deviate from the popular norm really are taboo. Your choice. wbmw

To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (73686)	3/6/2002 2:37:07 PM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

>I came to the same conclusion several months ago and put wannabe on ignore. Whatever his motivation, his agenda to reply to as many posts as possible with positive Intel spin amounts to FUD. Is he an Intel plant? Most likely -- even if he denies it. Huh? Wanna posts what he believes, I think, and a lot of it is really useful stuff. How many people around here and on the INTC thread reply to as many posts as possible with positive AMD spin? Plenty! Are they AMD plants? Doubtful. Stop witchhunting Wanna. -Z

To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (73686)	3/6/2002 2:46:25 PM
From: Dan3	Respond to of 275872

For what it's worth: Here is what I think, having seen Hammer engineering silicon in action I suspect that Jerry is revising statements made that were based on emulation and calculations rather than the performance that is engineers were actually seeing. In other words what I think happened is estimates suggested 25 – 30% while the silicon actually provides closer to 30 – 50%. I am basing this on the evaluation system my friend has/had, which was running at 1.5Ghz actual speed and destroying every thing around it performance wise. And I do mean nothing else could touch it. So yea I pretty much believe the that the Hammer 3400 pally 4300 is well within the ballpark. aceshardware.com Just a quick observation that Tenchusatsu has indicated that banias, which also has a low latency on-die memory controller, provided an upside performance surprise for Intel. I've posted before why a low latency memory controller becomes so critical as clock speeds increase.