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To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (235371)	3/8/2002 12:00:45 PM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

I could care less what you grayedout debaters think of me. clean out your boots before you go out. God recognized children in the womb. When did that stop? Scientist have long held that life begins at conception. your ""gray"" areas are fine for all you "intellectuals" to debate about until it is time you go to get a latte, or your mud facial. You ignore the holocauset going on around you, and that is a sad commentary of our sick nation. When does life begin? * In 1981 (April 23-24) a Senate Judiciary Subcommittee held hearings on the very question before us here: When does human life begin? Appearing to speak on behalf of the scientific community was a group of internationally-known geneticists and biologists who had the same story to tell, namely, that human life begins at conception - and they told their story with a profound absence of opposing testimony. Dr. Micheline M. Mathews-Roth, Harvard medical School, gave confirming testimony, supported by references from over 20 embryology and other medical textbooks that human life began at conception. * "Father of Modern Genetics" Dr. Jerome Lejeune told the lawmakers: "To accept the fact that after fertilization has taken place a new human has come into being is no longer a matter of taste or opinion ... it is plain experimental evidence." * Dr. Hymie Gordon, Chairman, Department of Genetics at the Mayo Clinic, added: "By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception." * Dr. McCarthy de Mere, medical doctor and law professor, University of Tennessee, testified: "The exact moment of the beginning of personhood and of the human body is at the moment of conception." * Dr. Alfred Bongiovanni, University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, concluded, "I am no more prepared to say that these early stages represent an incomplete human being than I would be to say that the child prior to the dramatic effects of puberty ... is not a human being." * Dr. Richard V. Jaynes: "To say that the beginning of human life cannot be determined scientifically is utterly ridiculous." * Dr. Landrum Shettles, sometimes called the "Father of In Vitro Fertilization" notes, "Conception confers life and makes that life one of a kind." And on the Supreme Court ruling _Roe v. Wade_, "To deny a truth [about when life begins] should not be made a basis for legalizing abortion." * Professor Eugene Diamond: "...either the justices were fed a backwoods biology or they were pretending ignorance about a scientific certainty."

To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (235371)	3/9/2002 9:03:24 PM
From: E	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Don't waste time arguing with him. He is a zealot who actually believes an appropriate role for government is to force women to gestate fertilized ova against their wills. You will probably think I am exaggerating, but it's true. He believes in government control of uteruses. He believes in compulsory gestation for all women, whatever their own religious and ethical views are, to force them to live according to his religious precepts, using the power of the state. Odd, but true. So I urge you not to waste your time.