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To: PROLIFE who wrote (235387)3/8/2002 2:34:49 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
LOL! Re: "God recognized children in the womb. When did that stop?"

>>> Er... did you get a telegram or something? For 80% or so of it's recorded history the Catholic Church's official policy was that the soul was invested into the new human life at birth...

>>> My only point was that there are LOTS of different viewpoints on this issue, from lots of different religions (some claiming different divine inspirations)... and that some religions even have documented histories of changing their official positions along the way....

RE: "Scientist have long held that life begins at conception."

>>> Well, by definition, a NEW 'potential' individual is created in the exchange of genetic material when an egg is fertilized.... But what about all of the other scenarios I posed to you? I was trying to find out - rationally - what your views are but since you never answered any of the questions (not even with 'yes' or 'no') I still have no idea what you think about these specific situations.

>>> Note: these are not 'hypotheticals' any longer. Science moves apace.

>>> For just one example (taken from your posted remarks), if you believe that 'human life begins when sperm and egg combine' - but before implantation into the uterus - than several forms of birth control could be viewed as 'murder'. So could any parental activity (smoking, poor diet, strenuous exercise, corporate use of estrogen-mimicing chemicals such as pesticides, etc.) which increased the risk of miscarriage.

>>> If you hold that 'human life begins at conception' than one of the examples I gave in my post which you were responding to (growing a blastocyte in a petri dish for stem cell extraction... said blastocyte produced by nuclear injection... not by sexual merging of sperm and egg) would not be judged to be 'murder' by your own definition *because 'conception' was not involved.*

>>> As this has been done in nations around the world, it is a somewhat more than speculative concern now.

>>> What say you? What are your views? Where do you draw the line between 'human life' and 'not human life'?