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To: Joe NYC who wrote (74577)3/15/2002 1:57:31 AM
From: Joe NYCRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
VR Zone has more info on ATI chipsets. It looks like ATI is positioning their Athlon chipsets to be low end. The model numbers are smaller and the core clock speed (Northbridge + video) are also lower that P4 equivalents: vr-zone.com

Interesting approach. In the Athlon market, where they need strong product to prevent nVidia from kicking their butt, they have a weak product, and in Intel market, with no nVidia, they have a stronger product.

Good thing I sold my ATI shares 1 day after I bought them (thanks to Pravin for recommendations to buy).

Joe



To: Joe NYC who wrote (74577)3/15/2002 2:00:12 AM
From: milo_moraiRead Replies (5) | Respond to of 275872
 
<font color=red>[H]ardNews for Friday, March 15, 2002 - First Ed.



Kyle:
It looks as if AMD is getting serious about launching Thoroughbred by the end of the month. As of today over in Germany, they have demonstrated a TBred core "2800+". That would be 2.2GHz for all you folks without a cheat sheet. Seems fitting as Hanover, Germany was the first place we ever saw a TBred core CPU....right about a year ago. Here is a translation from this site.

AMD shows Hammer and Thoroughbred Publié the 14/3/2002 by TEAM Clubic AMD benefited from CeBIT to officially announce the next evolution of the Athlon processor known under the name of Thoroughbred code. The principal innovation of this processor is its smoothness of engraving in 0,13 micron which enables him to release less heat and thus to make it possible to reach higher frequencies. Visually celà results in a reduction of the size of the core. This new processor should arrive as of the end of the month, at the beginning of April at the latest on the market. We could photograph Thoroughbred 2800+ beside Athlon XP in 0,18 micron what enables you to distinguish the difference in size from the core.

And our own TBred pics from Comdex of this year. Also, here is the PDF of the AMD presentation given at CeBIT.

hardocp.com

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To: Joe NYC who wrote (74577)3/15/2002 5:15:51 AM
From: fyodor_Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 275872
 
Joe, from your post:

AMD has showcased their upcoming 0.13 micron Athlon XP 2800+ (2.2Ghz) processor codename "Thoroughbred". The "Thoroughbred" core is 80mm2 which is approximately 38% smaller than its 0.18 micron Athlon XP.

So quantihertz formula kept constant and only a 38% reduction in core size&#133 Is JC wrong and AMD did double the L2 cache? If not, I certainly hope that there are a few architectural improvements and an FSB bump.

-fyo



To: Joe NYC who wrote (74577)3/15/2002 8:38:45 AM
From: Charles GrybaRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 275872
 
Joe, weird. My XP1600+ runs at 1.6v 24/7. I was hoping that the Tbred would be able to do at most that and maybe even 1.5.

C



To: Joe NYC who wrote (74577)3/15/2002 11:29:10 AM
From: eCoRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Athlon XP 2800+ (2.2 GHz) - not bad at all for an early stepping. Better than I expected in fact (assuming air-cooled of course). The reviews will be interesting - particularly with respect to overclocking.

eCo