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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (3044)	3/15/2002 7:55:46 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

True, true...still it would be inspiring to see someone of quality rise from the "of the people" commoner ranks. Doesn't seem to likely in this generation.

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (3044)	3/15/2002 7:57:52 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

Yes, on the large scale we are not doing that badly. On the immediate scale, it has been a bit jarring, possibly because both options in the recent election were sons of politicians, and both were so conspicuously devoid of any merit beyond membership in the political caste.

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (3044)	3/15/2002 9:53:36 PM
From: thames_sider	Respond to of 21057

. In this country, their influence doesn't seem to be all that lasting. Compare them to British aristocracy, for example. When you've had time for more generations of inbred advantage, then be satisfied... the only things I'd feel pleased about comparing to British aristocracy are the competitors at Cruft's. I know how a nice powerful family looks so admirable, but there is no divine right to rule. Right now, I can recall only two nations on the planet where an 'elected' head of state actually owes his position to birth - where, were it not for the father's position, it is unfeasible that the son would be in any notable role, still less the prime office of his country. So stand up, George W Bush and Kim Jong Il. The US and N Korea...