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To: haqihana who wrote (240886)	3/22/2002 1:25:52 PM
From: joseph krinsky	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Theym mix alcohol with gasoline, I do think it's methanol, but I'm not sure, it could be ethanol. It's not really important to me which one it is. Methane is a gas like hydrogen, methane burns. As far as the cows go, I guess in a million years if we're still around and we've used up all the other sources of fuel, we could put two cows on a trailer, feed them corn or grass, attach a pipe to their asses, and power our cars that way. Sure, why not! LOL LOL.

To: haqihana who wrote (240886)	3/22/2002 2:47:15 PM
From: Kenneth V. McNutt	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Again, I'm not sure, but I think that ethanol was just a name used for a mixture of gasoline, and methane gas Ethanol is another name for alcohol as in rubbing, whiskey and many other uses, etc. It replaces MBTE(tetra-methyl-ethel-lead-)(you've all heard of the Ethel Corporation?) as a anti knock agent and as a oxidant to promote oxidation of gasoline and reduce pollution It also has 10 to 20% less btu power than gasoline so in effect you get less mileage per gallon and therefore require more gasoline to move the same distance It is also an extreme corrosive and cannot be used in older autos as it ruins the hoses, etc. Newer autos are designed to utilize ethanol without damaging the equipment. The jury is still out on how much pollution it reduces although its use does reduce the lead from the MBTE. Also a good way to get rid of all that corn we subsidize the farmers to grow/or not. Some engines have been developed that will run on pure ethanol or many other substances but they are rather inefficient. All this is layman's description from general reading and some chemistry classes too long ago to matter. Ken

To: haqihana who wrote (240886)	3/22/2002 2:52:07 PM
From: Kenneth V. McNutt	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

I have heard, but cannot confirm, that when cows eat the agricultural crops, digest them, and pass the gas accumulated in the process, that gas is methane gas, which can be used for fuel. I am working on this but have been unable to design a seat belt acceptable to FDA/EPA/HUD and the attorney generals office to hold the cow in the proper position to obtain the gases Can't spend too much time on testing as the area becomes untenable after a few miles. Ken