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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: ManyMoose who wrote (241368)	3/23/2002 9:47:21 PM
From: 10K a day	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

The gulf war was not a war...It was a slaughter... What did we lose...157 men? Most of them by friendly fire? 25 of them from a misguided skuz missle? Give me a break. the real tragedy of Vietnam was was not the 50K men that died...but the 150,000 that committed suicide since that time....

To: ManyMoose who wrote (241368)	3/23/2002 10:16:25 PM
From: Karen Lawrence	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769667

I thought Bush Sr.'s objective was to take out Hussein. "Nixon got us out of Viet Nam". He was in office six years before that took place and he got us into Laos and Cambodia illegally and lied about that until the evidence was irrefutable. If Kennedy had remained pres instead of Johnson, perhaps the Viet Nam issue would have been resolved. Or if Goldwater had won, Viet Nam would have been blown off the planet. We can't know, but Johnson was so devastated by what was going on in Viet Nam, he did not run again.

To: ManyMoose who wrote (241368)	3/24/2002 1:32:03 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

As somebody already said, Nixon had no plan, and didn't want to end it. I think it actually all started with Ike,(with Nixon as VP) after the French were kicked out. It gets really complicated, and I am no student of the war (just what I remember), but, at one point, Ike wouldn't allow elections to proceed because it was clear Ho Chi Minh would win. As I said earlier, I have heard that JFK wanted to pull out when we had about 17K advisors there; (pity Nixon's father didn't pull out); the rumor was associated with the reason for his assassination. Johnson really got things going, lying about the Tonkin Gulf and getting authority to respond (Clinton's lie, which everybody gets so worked up about, cost him his girlfriend...Johnson's cost 50K lives). Now I was one of the people in the Army of the Streets. If I could go back in time with the knowledge I gained over the last 35 years, including Johnson's newly released doubts, including McNamara's guilt/apology tour, including 10 years working at a VA hospital with a whole bunch of 'Nam vets, I would do it a little differently...instead of cheering when the Hell's Angels trashed peace marchers on their way to the draft center in Berserkeley in '64 or '65, I would have already hit the streets, instead of waiting 'til 69. Knowing everything you do now, would you go back to Nam and fight? TK