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To: Ali Chen who wrote (75619)	3/26/2002 1:16:12 PM
From: Tony Viola	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Ali, This is totally outrageous ignorance. How you could voice any opinion or objection at this level of knowledge? Please visit at least the layman-investor-level Instead of laying into the guy, I bet it wouldn't have taken a whole lot longer to do a few short sentences on the exact point, when is wafer sort done, instead of throwing a PDF IC Technology 101 at him. I thought we were here to help each other. Tony

To: Ali Chen who wrote (75619)	3/26/2002 1:17:13 PM
From: Joe NYC	Respond to of 275872

Sony to offer XP Pro on AMD notebooks Small victory for Chimpzilla By Mike Magee, 26/03/2002 10:12:57 BST THE AMD VERSION of the Sony Vaio will shortly support Windows XP Pro, a small victory for the chip company in gaining corporate acceptance for its mobile chips. The Intel-based Vaio family come with a choice of Windows 2000, XP Pro, or whatever an end user wants, but Sony had restricted the AMD notebook to being supplied with XP Home. That indicated it thought that AMD mobile chip users were likely to be home, rather than professional users. However, Sony has now told a customer – a reader of the INQUIRER – that it will shortly offer XP Professional on AMD-based machines, an indication that demand for this operating system is greater than expected. The rest at: theinquirer.net Joe

To: Ali Chen who wrote (75619)	3/26/2002 1:18:03 PM
From: 5dave22	Respond to of 275872

<"From a laymans point of view, I would expect that wafer sort is done after..." This is totally outrageous ignorance. How you could voice any opinion or objection at this level of knowledge?> What's a wafer?

To: Ali Chen who wrote (75619)	3/26/2002 1:58:34 PM
From: hmaly	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 275872

Ali Re...Please visit at least the layman-investor-level icknowledge.com; I read over the PDF however there wasn't a step called wafer sort. However there was a step called wafer test, on pg. 10 which appears to be the step Elmer calls wafer sort. Your article, and Elmer both state that DD is largely determined by particle size and concentration. However Yousef said that DD often have a pattern, which would imply imperfections in the process, rather than particles randomly contaminating x no. of die/wafer. What I am trying to determine is why Elmer feels AMD would have more of a particulate contamination problem than Intel. Don't both buy close to the same filters and use close to the same clean room processes. In particular, if AMD did have a DD problem, couldn't AMD simply upgrade the clean room and filtering system; whereas Intel needs to downsize the die in order to improve yields. Isn't it easier to improve the clean room, and could be done with readily available equipment, whereas Intel would need to redesign the P4. In short, why the FUD, if AMD's problem , if it exists, is easily correctable.