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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (6043)	3/31/2002 3:27:45 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

'My own feeling is that Canada should get special consideration and treatment by the US' We don't need or want 'special consideration', this would be counter-productive, soon as you give special status to one you're being unfair to another [which is our point throughout this long war with the pine lobby] ... no, level playing field is the best way .... it is true that through long association a greater level of trust builds up, generally speaking, between the two nations, greater flows of people and goods and services, the two get tied together, i know few people without relatives in the US for instance ... so the relationship is 'special' in that regard, for sure, however business should be left to sink or swim on its own merits imho There are distinct systems of land tenure directly related to forestry, which provides the pine lobby with a lot of their ideology-based bullshit, but it is exactly that - bullshit ... there is a sovereignty to be respected, a desire to maintain independence at the same as we are friends and allies 'marcos rather clearly takes a leftist stance on these matters.' - there you go again, geeez ... leftist compared to what? ... not particularly useful this imho .... sure i think the US made grave mistakes in their treatment of the indochinese and the centroamericanos, no doubt about it, this does not make me a Ho or a Castro or Ortega ..... that whole left/right spectrum of categorising is so myopic, unidimensional, irrelevant to the pine lobby vs rest of us dispute

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (6043)	4/1/2002 1:27:51 AM
From: average joe	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 21057

"We're going to thaw Canada? :-)" The U.S. will need lots of water in the next decade from foreign sources as more people move to the South West and California. There is not enough local water to sustain agriculture let alone domestic needs. The closest, cleanest and cheapest foreign source is Canada. "Why the same people? Different industries and interests here." Just a hunch on my part. "marcos rather clearly takes a leftist stance on these matters. That's why I wanted to get your take." Marcos is a gambler you should see some of the CDNX stocks he has played over the years. "My own feeling is that Canada should get special consideration and treatment by the US. It has been a good neighbor and is an old and faithful ally. It is also one of the fairly small number of working democracies in the world. I think they should be treated better than countries such as China." I feel the same way after all those years of CIA experiments! radix.net