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To: Poet who wrote (6556)	4/3/2002 2:02:21 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 21057

See I believe in a living universe and that all quantum fluctuations are part of a process by which information moves around through the universe. It isn't hard for me to imagine myself as "pea" (cosmic force) in the "stew" (Cosmic Force) of the universe. I can't really define the universe without me and the universe can't define itself without me either, since I am undoubtedly here. Pretty cool if you think about it. I don't know if that is anthropomorphizing or not, but I don't expect the "Cosmic Force" to have a gender. When I was a kid I went but couldn't identify with a lot of the stuff in the bible - it didn't all 'stick together' for me. I found an amalgam of other philosophies (largely eastern in origin) that helped me "understand" the relationship between the separate parts (the illusion from Hindu belief) and the whole (the ultimate universe). I'm not Asian but their vantage point seemed a lot closer to the way I thought things worked.

To: Poet who wrote (6556)	4/3/2002 3:09:06 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

Some Christians see Jesus as aprocryphal, possibly an amalgam of more than one historical figure. It's what He represents that matters more to us. And what truths and wisdom the world was all to ready for back at that crucial juncture in man's history was also described and delved into by many , even a few Emperors. Much that dealt with moral compasses, living simply and charitably etc , even to the most sublime spiritual exercises and renunciations...long before Jesus . No one religion has all the answers or perfect ritual and they must all learn to accept that . A great deal of good came out of the secular. There is nothing more offensive , than to take a simple truth that many have come to know by other means and hold it over people's heads for centuries , for pain of eternal Hell because they were not part of that particular litany and ritual. All this talk of Atheist or Agnostic does not take into consideration the one basic idea , that there is plenty of inspiration to go around ,and no one is saved or damned for believing or not believing... or ever excommunicated from life. That Jesus may have been a wise teacher , fine , but there were others before and after just as wise . But nice to have Jesus in the tribe of man. ;-)