To: sandintoes who wrote (13192 ) 4/5/2002 5:53:22 AM From: GUSTAVE JAEGER Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 23908 As the article below shows, we're entering much roily waters again:jpost.com Excerpt: But last month, after he had dispatched Vice President Richard Cheney on a quixotic, unnecessary, and humiliating quest for Arab approval of his determination to topple Saddam Hussein, he suddenly lost his ability to see the obvious, let alone to restate it. He could not see that the goal of the Arab world has always been, and still is, to destroy the state of Israel. He could not see that Crown Prince Abdullah's "peace initiative" did not represent a renunciation of that goal, but was only a cynical public-relations ploy to counter the bad press the Saudis had been getting in the United States since September 11. He could not see that in making the "right of return" of the Palestinian refugees a condition of any settlement, the Saudi "vision" amounted to nothing more than the assurance that if Israel were to cease being a Jewish state, the Arab world would graciously cease objecting to its existence. Blinded by the Saudi mirage - and no doubt with a little additional wool pulled over his eyes by his secretary of state, Colin Powell - Bush lost his way to the extent of characterizing the actions taken against terrorism by Israel under Prime Minister Ariel Sharon as "unhelpful." [snip] ___________________ That Judeofascist stalwart Podhoretz has correctly noted Cheney's dud/farewell tour in the ME to garner support for yet another Iraqi crusade... However, his defiant "debunking" of the Saudi peace plan --which was endorsed by ALL Arab countries during the Beirut summit-- is quite dismaying.... If anything, it gives us a dismal clue to Zionism's innate warmongering. Where could such disheartening opinions lead us? An assassination attempt on Secr. of State C. Powell during his next visit to Israel? BTW, like most Judeofascists, Podhoretz can't conceal his deep contempt of that Uncle Ben turned Kissinger, C. Powell... Or maybe against Pres. Bush himself? Besides, as every arch-Zionist mouthpiece, Podhoretz camouflages the real contentious issue between Israelis and Palestinians, namely, the share-out of Jerusalem. Instead he prefers to bring forward the much less thorny "right of return" question. Indeed, all the Zionist quacks keep repeating that Arafat missed his bargain of a lifetime at the 1999 Camp David meeting where he was allegedly offered some sort of "right of return" for Palestinian refugees, 99.99% of all the claimed territories and a tidy sum to boot --and to help him rebuild his wrecked country... Plus a position in Jerusalem! Got the nuance?? A P-O-S-I-T-I-O-N in Jerusalem, heck, what does that mean in plain English??? The truth is, Palestinians are not fussing over a mere foothold in a Jerusalem that would remain under 100% Israeli sovereignty! They want to get back to 1967 and regain 100% PALESTINIAN sovereignty over EAST JERUSALEM --forget that "position" thing.... Gus