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To: Neocon who wrote (6944)	4/5/2002 8:58:00 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

Some conflicts take place in that context, some are more subversive of the framework. That's the key point, no? Who gets to decide which conflicts are constructive and which are subversive? I don't think any individual or group is qualified to make that sort of judgment. I'd rather leave that up to the marketplace of ideas. What gives you the impression that there is little interest in Western Europe? People like Raymond Aron, Roger Scruton, Ignazio Stilone, and others have defended the West forcefully. I didn't say there was no interest in defending the west, I said there was little interest in your brand of conservatism. I'm sure there are a few hoary academics that you could cite as believers; I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the overall political landscape in Western Europe. I would also point out that the people who don't agree with your brand of conservatism are not necessarily uninterested in defending the West. They just have different ideas about where Western Civilization ought to be going. I do not think that most social conservatives are interested in social engineering, per se. Maybe we aren't looking at the same ones. The ones I see about seem quite dedicated to the proposition that Government ought to be actively trying to push mold society in a particular image that they find attractive. One common thread that I see among many conservatives is an imression, in some cases a firm belief and in others merely a generic feeling, that there was a time in the past when things were better than they are now, and that there has been something lost that ought to be recovered. A lot of conservatives seem to want to go back to some hypothetical golden age, even to the extent of proposing quite radical changes in order to get there. Have you observed this as well, and if so, how does it fit into your conservative paradigm?