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To: Elmer who wrote (163615)4/6/2002 5:42:06 PM
From: Charles Gryba  Respond to of 186894
 
Elmer, I agree. Errata is probably 100% related to design (logic ) issues NOT process.

C



To: Elmer who wrote (163615)4/6/2002 8:52:01 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
"Intel has always used looser design rules and usually fewer metal layers, thus they get a larger die but better yields."

Which is why I specified "particular process", although I realize that the two companies use very different processes. As you know, Intel does a lot of optimization on the transistor level. AMD, at least until recently, doesn't do nearly as much of this. It is my understanding that AMD uses fairly course logic blocks in their cells, to the point that the Palomino cores were considered to be a big departure for them. There they did at least some optimization on transistors, shrinking the ones that didn't need as much drive for example.

As far as the errata, yes it is the logic design and not the process. But it is easier to debug the individual cells if you aren't going over them and tweaking the transistors.