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To: shoreco who wrote (48002)4/6/2002 7:27:00 PM
From: Zeev Hed  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 99280
 
Shoreco, the travesty is that the tax payer will pay for that binges. The companies did these acquisitions with inflated paper and the write down have no impact whatsoever on cash flow, actually it will have a very positive impact on cash flow. Typically, a profitable company pays about 35% to 40% in taxes on earnings, however, the allowance of that rapid write down (under the guise of cleaner accounting) will result in immediate losses, and thus the taxation will be nil. Take for example JDSU, they wrote off, if memory serves what was in essence their acquisition of SDL for paper (their own inflated stock at the time) $50 B (if memory serves), they will not earn $50 B cumulatively for, let say the next 10 years, all their earnings, until they cumulatively earned this $50 B will be tax free. Who will pay the shortage in taxes? Us. If that was not enough of a travesty, they sold that deal to the public, and the public was actually left with that worthless paper, so the public not only is going to have a greater burden of the tax load, but are stuck with those cap losses as well.

Luckily, that is going to have "only" an impact of some $30 to $40 Billions per year of the next 10 years or so (in term of federal revenues shortfalls), and that is an mpact we "can live" with

Zeev



To: shoreco who wrote (48002)4/6/2002 7:47:26 PM
From: mishedlo  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 99280
 
CVC
someone help me out here but this looks pathetic.

biz.yahoo.com

As I see it, had they not sold $2B in assets they would have had a $1B loss.
They made $ by selling off assets?

How long can this continue?
Am I reading this correctly?

Also I note a huge interest expense.
Yhoo profile does not show debt/equity ratio but did they have to sell assets to pay interest expenses on debt.
How much debt is that and where is it hidden?

M



To: shoreco who wrote (48002)4/7/2002 10:50:53 AM
From: Softechie  Respond to of 99280
 
Tice and Fleckenstein are my favorite people I listen to.