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To: Logain Ablar who wrote (2708)4/7/2002 9:38:45 PM
From: John Pitera  Respond to of 2850
 
Hi Tim, good to hear you were not vaporized in the collateral damage of last week -g-

I am hopeful that Nuclear Winter does not set in -g-

sorry to hear about you and MCDTA. I've kept a surprising amount of cash for me this year on a percentage basis.

I would say that it reflects my relative lack of conviction all the way around. It's been a reasonably tough environment.

That's one of the greatest lessons I've been taught by some really savvy people over time. there are times when you want to do less and also play smaller.... Just musing to myself about this.

John



To: Logain Ablar who wrote (2708)4/7/2002 9:50:03 PM
From: John Pitera  Respond to of 2850
 
Hi Tim,

You know CMRC is interesting. There was the very very bearish article in terms of SAP's agreement with them possibly accounting for 7 million of CMRC's 8 million of license revenues this quarter.

Looking at the chart and the lack of growth in license sales one would say CMRC should have the 10 run rule invoked, to end the suffering.

But, I had a friend show me page 51.10 of the 10 K filed April 1. It shows the Revenues recognized from Covisant, and NTT. Those numbers are growing.

have you seen that chart on Page 51-52? and it is interesting that Covisant revenues increased over 100% and NTT revenues by over 160%.

his albeit too bullish take is that if you see this trend continue and then see the other exchanges start to kick in, then you've got something..... not much maybe but... something. Any thoughts on this?

ccbn.tenkwizard.com

During the years ended December 31, 2001 and 2000, the Company recognized revenues with Covisint, LLC (“Covisint”), a business-to-business e-marketplace for the procurement of goods and services by automakers, their suppliers and others. The Company holds a two percent equity interest in Covisint and under the terms of a Technology Agreement with Covisint (see Note 11), the Company indirectly licenses software and professional services and software maintenance to Covisint in exchange for cash compensation and a share of Covisint’s e-marketplace revenue over a ten-year period.



During the years ended December 31, 2001, 2000 and 1999, the Company recognized revenue from transactions with NTT Corporation (“NTT”). A member of the Company’s Board of Directors currently serves as an executive of an NTT subsidiary.



Amounts included in the consolidated financial statements in connection with the related party transactions described above are as follows (in thousands):



To: Logain Ablar who wrote (2708)4/15/2002 12:20:40 PM
From: John Pitera  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2850
 
Hi Tim, about 3 or 4 months ago Tom Seibel was the cover story of Forbes, and he was saying that the IT industry was recoving in a major way. He saw this due to his CRM sales tracking the tech sectors so closely. The article made a point of pointing out How his vantage point was particularly good and should be given greater creedance due to his astute statement in Jan or Feb of 2001, calling for a Major industry downturn.

Then a few days ago he now does a 180 degree turn and says that Q 1 may have been the worst in history.

So what is going on here? Pretty amazing.

(I know you are eyebrow deep in tax returns..... see you when you surface -g-)

John

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Siebel Comments Devastate Software Stocks

By Ronna Abramson
Staff Reporter
04/10/2002 01:56 PM EDT

Software shares tumbled Wednesday after the CEO of Siebel Systems (SEBL:Nasdaq - news - commentary - research - analysis) said the first quarter may have been the worst in the industry's history.


Tom Siebel's remarks, reported by Bloomberg, dragged shares of the San Mateo, Calif.-based company down $2.73, or 9.9%, to $24.83 in recent trading on heavy volumes. Shares of Oracle (ORCL:Nasdaq - news - commentary - research - analysis) fell $1.03, or 8.6%, to $10.95 -- its lowest point since Sept. 21. Manugistics (MANU:Nasdaq - news - commentary - research - analysis) fell $1.98, or 10.8%, to $16.40. SeeBeyond (SBYN:Nasdaq - news - commentary - research - analysis), which announced an expanded partnership with Siebel Wednesday, fell 61 cents, or 8.7%, to $6.39.

Tom Siebel, whose comments came during a conference in Barcelona, said the tech industry hasn't picked up yet and the contraction is not over, according to Bloomberg. The company declined to confirm or elaborate on Siebel's comments.

Siebel, which makes customer relationship management software, has avoided joining competitors PeopleSoft and Oracle in preannouncing disappointing earnings for the previous quarter. Siebel said his company is sticking by its forecast of 15% growth in software sales this year.

But SoundView analyst Jim Mendelson reduced his revenue and earnings estimates for Siebel for 2002 and 2003, citing a recent survey showing that a healthy demand for CRM applications will not translate into tangible spending until the fourth quarter of this year. " [The survey] did underscore that spending would be very heavily back-end loaded at the end of the year," Mendelson said.

Mendelson, who has a hold rating on Siebel, trimmed 2002 earnings per share to 55 cents from his prior estimate of 62 cents and 2003 earnings to 72 cents from 75 cents. He reduced 2002 revenue to $2.08 billion from $2.18 billion and 2003 revenue to $2.52 billion from $2.65 billion. Mendelson's firm hasn't done any banking with Siebel.

The consensus estimate is for Siebel to earn 58 cents a share on $2.16 billion in revenue in 2002 and 75 cents a share on $2.61 billion in revenue in 2003, according to Thomson Financial/First Call.

Mendelson said he does not believe Siebel is immune to the tight IT spending that has led companies such as PeopleSoft and more recently IBM (IBM:NYSE - news - commentary - research - analysis) to preannounce disappointing numbers. But Mendelson believes Siebel entered the first quarter with enough backlog and momentum to make first-quarter numbers.

Wall Street is expecting the company to report $483 million in first-quarter revenue -- an 18% decline from the same period a year ago -- and earnings of 12 cents a share -- a 20% decline from a year ago.

thestreet.com



To: Logain Ablar who wrote (2708)5/5/2002 10:09:31 PM
From: John Pitera  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2850
 
TELCO only in MID-CORRECTION--Tim, thanks for posting this on the other thread.. It's a good perspective. It historically does take more like 5 or 8 years for the type of excesses to be dealt with.

The CEO comment that it has to get better because it can not get any worse is simply wrong and the smart people in the market know it.

Telcom industry leaders were saying it could not get any worse last year.

WCOM's down from 15 to 1.79 during the period when it "can not get any worse"

Wrong. simply wrong. The NASD and SPX certainly are going to do a full retest of the Sept 2001 and the SPX particularly looks like it's head back to 750 to 850 over the next year.

I'm posting your article for future reference.

John

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APRIL 24, 2002
PREVIOUS NEWS ANALYSIS

Telecom Downturn: Just Beginning?

BURLINGAME, Calif. -- The carrier spending downturn could very well last another five to six years, according to Dr. John McQuillan, president of McQuillan Ventures. McQuillan, cochairman of the NGN Ventures conference here, sent a few attendees scrambling for their Maalox on Tuesday when he pointed out that, historically, capital spending downturns have tended to last for seven to eight years.

Since the telecom industry is only two years into its current downturn, McQuillan told attendees that they'd better just buck up and quit living in the past: "We need to stop telling ourselves that it’s a tough market and start telling ourselves that this is the market."

The reality for components suppliers and equipment vendors, he said, is that there are only a few service providers buying gear, and those buyers have "deep pockets, but very short arms."

Not everyone, of course, is convinced that today's downturn is the new reality. While pumping up his employees last week, Redback Networks Inc.'s (Nasdaq: RBAK - message board) CEO Kevin DeNuccio said he thinks the telecom recession is nearly over. "[Market conditions] will not get worse than this because they can't get any worse -- I really believe that," he said (see Redback Rallies Itself ).

DeNuccio did, however, distinguish between the telecom industry in general and the optical networking market specifically, saying that, thanks to excess inventory and unused network capacity at carriers, optical networking companies may well see "several more quarters" of depression.

Regardless of how long the telecom spending depression lasts, the damage already done is evident here. There were 2,100 attendees here last year and only 1,500 were pre-registered this year, according to show management.

Venture capitalists, after seeing record low returns in 2001, are back to investing with heightened skepticism and tighter focus. Several VC firms have also reduced the size of their funds. "This is a remarkable admission from a group of alpha males," McQuillan quipped (see VCs & Startups Go to the Mat ).

There are, however, investment opportunities still, as illustrated by the forty networking equipment, wireless, and component startups presenting here. And, despite the skepticism hurled at speakers during the conference's Q&A sessions, many companies here are taking meetings with VCs and seeking funding for their next big ideas.

Lexra Inc., for instance, says it's here looking for between $10 million and $15 million in incremental funding as it goes from being an intellectual property licensing business to a fabless semiconductor company that designs chips for Internet switches, access concentrators, and edge routers.

During the conference opener, Burton Group research director David Passmore named several service provider technology areas that are hot in the near term: next-gen Sonet, metro Ethernet, softswitches, multiservice switches/routers, core routers, and cellular/fixed broadband wireless. Under "longer-term" or "deferred" technologies, Passmore listed pure optical metro/core switches and 40-Gbit/s or higher-density DWDM.

Indeed, in certain parts of the network, the financial devastation endured by the incumbent equipment vendors has left gaping holes in their product portfolios. Kumar Shah, president and CEO of Occam Networks Inc., says that the access equipment market positions held by Nortel Networks Corp. (NYSE/Toronto: NT - message board), Lucent Technologies Inc. (NYSE: LU - message board), and Marconi PLC (Nasdaq/London: MONI - message board) -- some 40 percent of that market -- are "up for grabs."

"The key to success now is having staying power and making sure your customers feel comfortable with your capitalization strategy," Kumar says.

— Phil Harvey, Senior Editor, Light Reading
lightreading.com