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To: Ilaine who wrote (24044)	4/9/2002 8:45:08 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

cb, Palestine has always been well defined in the Western imagination, due to its religious importance. This is only confirmed by the map you showed, whose purpose was to show the location of the twelve tribes in ancient Israel. Christians remember ancient Israel, 1st century CE Judea and the Crusader Kingdom, and draw their maps accordingly. To Ottomans and Arabs, Palestine was merely a region of Syria, not a country. They never drew borders around it. In the nineteenth century, the region of Palestine was part of three administrative entities (the vileyat of Damascus, the vileyat of Beirut, and the Independent Sanjak of Jerusalem) that also included parts of what are today Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt. For comparison, the Connecticut River Valley is also a well defined region, but it has never been a state or a country.

To: Ilaine who wrote (24044)	4/9/2002 10:55:43 AM
From: LLLefty	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

>>>>>>some Jews argue that the entire area was a desert until they moved there, and that the only reason the Arabs want to live there is because the Jews made it a better place to live.<<<< The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is of a body of population — British consul in 1857 There is not a solitary village throughout its whole extent [valley of Jezreel] — not for 30 miles in either direction. . . . One may ride 10 miles hereabouts and not see 10 human beings. For the sort of solitude to make one dreary, come to Galilee . . . Nazareth is forlorn . . . Jericho lies a moldering ruin . . . untenanted by any living creature . . . . A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds . . a silent, mournful expanse . . . a desolation . . . . We never saw a human being on the whole route . . . . Hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country . . . . Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes . . . desolate and unlovely . . . . — Mark Twain, The Innocents Abroad, 1867