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To: Fred Levine who wrote (62784)	4/9/2002 9:40:17 AM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 70976

OT***Fred, Just the other day he praised the Saudi proposal. True interests are aligned for the Moderate arab states and Israel. In order to take down the international terrorists Palestine/Israel must be normalized. Then over the next year or two the US with tacit support of MAS states and Israel can take down the terror networks and Iraq and perhaps influence Iran and Syria enought to stop their support. Think of it this way Fred. If the Saudi plan(tweak) is accepted and peace breaks out, the palestinians will be busy with nation building. In that environment will Syria and Iran continue to fuel the flame or choose to join the 21st century? Go a step further, you can neutralize Syria with a Golan deal. So does Iran stand alone or forced to shed the clerics and become a Persian democratic state? I will always be the optimist Fred. mike

To: Fred Levine who wrote (62784)	4/9/2002 10:39:47 AM
From: Cary Salsberg	Respond to of 70976

OT About the time of the Saudi proposal, an official Saudi newspaper ran a "blood libel" article purportedly written by a Saudi university professor. "Trade, tourism, treaties, cultural exchanges, etc." You really don't get it! I am sure you would love the tourist walking tour of Damascus. It passes all the houses of the Nazi war criminals who were given asylum there and treated like heroes! I wonder why!

To: Fred Levine who wrote (62784)	4/9/2002 2:24:44 PM
From: Math Junkie	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 70976

OT Re: "The Saudi proposal was more significant than recognizing Israel; it was for full normalization. Trade, tourism, treaties, cultural exchanges, etc. Why has not Sharon jumped on it as a basis for negotiation? " The guaranteed "deal breaker" that apparently made it safe for the Saudis to offer all that, because they knew it would not be acceptable, is the so-called "right of return." At the time the Palestinian refugees left, maybe it would have been possible for them to remain and live in peace, I don't know, but now that we have large numbers of their descendants who have been raised to hate Jews, I have a real hard time seeing how this is going to work. On the surface, it all sounds oh-so-humanitarian: let all the Palestinian refugees and their descendants come back to their original homeland. But people have a dangerous tendency to forget about the practical realities imposed by 50 or more years of nursing the hatred of one people for another. And what about the hundreds of thousands of Jewish refugees from Arab states? Will the Arab nations allow the Jewish refugees and their descendants a similar "right of return"? If they did, would there be anyone naive enough to take them up on it, in the current environment? I don't think so! Message 17301919