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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (1257)4/11/2002 1:07:37 PM
From: Brumar89  Respond to of 2279
 
According to affirmative action decrees the 19.5% of blacks should have approximately 400 jobs of the 2000 city jobs. There are already 620 black working for city hall...

The original article said there were no affirmative action quotas in the city. Can you explain that?

Message 16531020

But officials in city hall deny any affirmative action quotas are used in hiring.

Another interesting question. Was that 1992 Mayor's race in which you got 2% of the votes, a two man race?

Vidrine, a Republican, ran for mayor in 1992 and he came in last with 603 votes, less than 2 percent of the total.



To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (1257)4/11/2002 1:09:49 PM
From: SouthFloridaGuy  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 2279
 
Jenin: 'My mother ran for help. A soldier shot her in the head'
By Justin Huggler in the West Bank
11 April 2002

Abdullah Washai had to watch his 17-year-old brother, Munir, slowly bleed to death. He took several hours to die. A hole had been ripped in his shoulder by a round from an Israeli helicopter.

When the boy's mother, Mariam, ran into the street screaming for help, Mr Washai says, Israeli soldiers shot her dead.

These are typical of the claims of those who have managed to escape the carnage of Jenin refugee camp, the scene of the worst fighting of Israel's onslaught in the West Bank.

The question that was facing Israel yesterday was: what will happen when the full story of what Israel has wreaked in the Jenin camp is revealed?

As the Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv said in an editorial: "We can begin thinking today about the war after the war: the public relations war in the media in which Israel can be expected to be placed in the international defendant's seat, when the television screens around the world become filled with the spectacle of bodies lined up, destroyed houses and crying, distraught relatives."

The Israeli army was claiming last night it had finally taken control of all but a tiny section of Jenin camp. But the stories that have been coming out of Jenin for several days have been horrifying, although it is impossible to verify them because of censorship by the Israeli authorities, who have denied journalists access to the camp.

To reach Mr Washai and his grieving brothers, we had to scramble down a steep, wooded hillside, with the Israeli helicopters clattering overhead. As friends shuffled past to pay their respects, Mr Washai told his story, which cannot be confirmed, in the home of a friend who had taken the family in.

"My brother was shot on Saturday afternoon," he said. "A helicopter round came through the wall. It went into his chest and out through the back of his shoulder. We called for an ambulance, but when it came outside the Israeli soldiers shot at it. It had to go."

The International Red Cross has said Israeli authorities have been refusing to allow ambulances to treat the wounded all over the West Bank, which is a war crime under the Geneva Conventions.

"Munir bled until 10 o'clock that night," Mr Washai continued. "My mother went out into the street screaming for help for him. An Israeli soldier shot her in the head."

At one point he buried his head in his hands and appeared to have difficulty going on. He spent two days in the house with the bodies.

"Then we heard people gathering outside. We went out to try to get an ambulance, and the soldiers took us. They separated my brothers and me from my father. We haven't seen him since. As far as we know, the bodies of my brother and mother are still lying in the camp."

The soldiers held them for some days at a military camp and interrogated them. When they released them, they ordered them to go to Ramani, a Palestinian village near Jenin.

Yesterday afternoon, an ugly rumour was going around the village, where Mr Washai and others who have left the camp were told to go. There is no evidence but the Palestinians were saying bodies were being taken out of Jenin refugee camp in trucks.

Nahum Barnea, a well-known Israeli commentator, wrote in Yedioth Ahronoth yesterday: "A number of discussions were held on this disturbing issue by military officials. The general conclusion was that some way has to be found to move the bodies into Israel. If Israel does not find some way to give them a dignified burial, the bodies will bury Israel."

There were other disturbing claims from those in Ramani. Mohammed al-Sadi told us he was used as a human shield by Israeli soldiers as they advanced through the camp.

"The soldiers smashed their way in through my door and started smashing a hole in the wall of my house so they could get from house to house without going in the street," Mr al-Sadi told us in the mosque, filled with refugees.

"The soldiers made four of us walk in front of their tank as it advanced. There were two of my cousins and another man. Then they took us to a house where the soldiers were inside. They put us outside the front door so if anyone shot we would be shot first."

Ariel Sharon toured an army base near Jenin refugee camp yesterday. "Our wonderful soldiers have to be able to continue this struggle," he said.

However, his Defence Ministry announced late yesterday that troops have pulled out of the West Bank villages of Yatta and Samua, near Jenin, and Qabatya, near Hebron.

*A United Nations agency said yesterday it had protested to Israel about the arrest of a member of staff and 104 students at a technical training centre it runs in Ramallah. The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) said: "Incursions into UNRWA installations by Israeli forces and detention of UNRWA trainees and staff is completely unacceptable and contrary to Israel's obligations to guarantee the security of UN staff."



To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (1257)4/11/2002 5:32:29 PM
From: Ben Wa  Respond to of 2279
 
>
> Dear Friends and Family,
>
>
>
> As the Hizballah in the North is trying very hard to pull us into
> war at the
> request of the Syrians and Iran,
>
> we are again holding back and taking the continuous Katyusha rocket
> attacks.
>
> I don't believe we are going to wait to long to straighten out the
> bill with
> them and I hope the Media
>
> remembers how it started.
>
>
>
> OUR 11 days of real peace was brutally interrupted this morning
> because two
> days ago we started to retreat
>
> from Tulkarem and in return a suicide bomber was able to reach
> Haifa,get on
> a bus and blow himself up
>
> killing 8(18-26 yrs old boys & girls) and wounding seriously another
> 20
> Israelis.
>
> On the T.V., people are being ask to sign up for work as security
> checkers
> on all passengers getting into
>
> buses. It is a law now that all cafe's and shopping centers must have
> security guards.
>
>
>
> Today, 300 Palestinian Terrorist surrendered as our best fighters(
> whom lost
> 15 men in a trap yesterday)
>
> went in again with bulldozers to clear the booby traps and wiped out
> 75 of
> them before they surrendered.
>
> As the PM said just now, not matter what pressure the world puts on
> us, we
> will not leave Jenin until the
>
> last terrorist is accounted for and all the laboratories that
> prepare the
> pipe and suicide bomb vests are destroyed
>
> and all the machine guns and illegal weapons are collected from
> their hidden
> places and houses.
>
>
>
> Below is a briefing by Gen.Kitrey on the tough, house to house, fight
> against the terrorist in the small
>
> and narrow streets of Jenin. We lost 15 soldiers yesterday because
> they were
> to careful not to injure anyone
>
> that is not firing at them, until an inevitable suicide bomber was
> sent to
> set off a series of bombs as he exploded.
>
> As every dead and brutally injured person has a face to us in this
> small
> country, it takes enormous strength
>
> to pick up a newspaper and watch our television to see the tragedies
> of so
> many families unfold.
>
>
>
> For Your Information
>
>
>
> 10 April 2002
>
>
>
> Briefing by Brig. Gen. Kitrey on the JENIN operation and loss of IDF
> soldiers
>
>
>
> The following briefing may be viewed in full by logging on to the
> web link
> below.
>
> “…We have been fighting in Jenin for about a week. Jenin is the
> northern
> town of Samaria, the West Bank area. 23 terrorist attacks came from
> Jenin
> before the current operation. Several of them were suicide attacks….
> We went
> there because the Palestinian Authority did not give us an option. We
> counted on them to take care of terrorism coming from there. Not
> only did
> they not do their job, which is part of the Oslo Agreement with us,
> but they
> are responsible for several of the attacks….”
>
> “…We faced hundreds, maybe coming to more then a thousand explosive
> charges,
> live explosive charges and some more sophisticated ones (in Jenin)…
> At the
> beginning we faced hundreds of gunmen, several of them terrorists,
> other
> militias and now we believe that there are still several dozens of
> them…Actually we offered them fair surrender to give up their
> weapons, and
> to surrender to our troops in order to avoid more casualties mainly
> on their
> side but also on our side. We got nothing but more shooting…”
>
> “…They have chosen deliberately the environment of civilian
> neighborhoods,
> civilian areas….” “…We know there is a civilian population there,
> that’s why
> we don't use more efficient means that could make things easier for
> us… We
> have given strict orders not to shoot, to hold back fire, the moment
> you see
> civilian families…”
>
> “…We are well aware from our officers in the field there, in Jenin,
> that the
> Palestinians actually refused our offers to assist them with
> humanitarian
> aid concerning the burial of bodies. We do have our information that
> they
> were ordered to leave the situation as is in order to manipulate and
> to put
> into the headlines that this was a "massacre…" It is not only the
> dead
> corpses they refuse to evacuate, but also wounded people - they
> would not
> allow us. They would shoot at medics who tried to assist…
>
> Log on for the full briefing:
>
> www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH0li80
>
>
>
> WWW.MFA.GOV.IL
>
>
>

Sandra Levy Ceren, Ph.D.
sandyLev@Juno.com
www.mysteryauthors.com



To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (1257)4/11/2002 11:48:26 PM
From: SOROS  Respond to of 2279
 
"The winds are turning", but not in the direction you would like.

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