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To: tejek who wrote (144788)	4/12/2002 12:33:44 PM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575191

>Definitely.........I think the Israelis are smart enough to not throw their weight around too much but there is a certain arrogance to their invasion of the West Bank. For an example, the EU delegation was blocked from seeing Arafat last week, and they tried to do the same with Powell this week. I'm not sure it's arrogance... it's more of a desire to not relegitimize Arafat, which is really the only result that could come out of such meetings. They'd really like to be done with him. -Z

To: tejek who wrote (144788)	4/12/2002 1:17:07 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575191

Tim, after two years! No probably a lot quicker then that if combat was intense. During intense combat an maneuver with modern equipment you go through supplies at an incredible rate. Modern tanks often get gallons per mile rather then miles per gallon. Each soldier can easily fire hundreds of rounds of ammo per day and each artillery battery can fire tons of shells, rocket batteries go through ammo even faster. High performance jet aircraft on after burner can use a large tank of fuel in minutes. Even the US could not go through high intensity conflict for two years without running out of fuel and ammo. Now add to this the fact that supply dumps can be attacked. I think in the past Israel only had a a few days worth of supplies. Now maybe they are like the European countries and they have weeks worth of supplies stockpiled. The US might have enough stockpiled for maximum intensity for a couple of months and then we would run low and have to slow down the war. For the gulf war we basically moved a city to Saudi Arabia. Not just a half million people but mountains of supplies. That's still a lot for a nation the size of Israel. Yes but they potentially face a united Arab attack. The chance is unlikely, but they want to have enough power to fight off Syria, Iraq, Lebanon (to the extent that it could unify to attack), Jordan, Egypt, and Saudi. The chances of such an attack are slim, but Israel wants to be ready in case it happens. In their situation I would want to be ready too. but after seeing videos this week of Palestinian villages and parts of Palestinian cities systemically demolished by Israeli tanks, I am beginning to wonder if its gone to their heads. Maybe a little bit but what has mostly gone to their heads is anger at the Palestinians for the bombings. Think of how the US would respond if we had granted a high level of autonomy to some Indian tribe and then they started sending terrorists out to attack because they wanted two or three times as much land, and the terrorists where backed by a small army with automatic rifles, RPGs and tons of explosives. You would see a lot of military power brought in against that reservation. Yes a moderate level of force could still win but it would take longer, give more chance for the terrorists to get away and put the soldiers at greater risk. Its often better to hit hard with overwhelming force. Frequently it doesn't just make your casualties lower, it can reduce the other sides casualties as well because the fighting is over quicker rather then dragging on for years with both sides dying. It goes beyond sorties. Israel's tech industry has digitalized much of the military's equipment, giving it greater range and better accuracy. Israel has some items that the US does not, but Israel does not have any significant technical edge over the US in any major area of warfare. We have all the gee wiz high tech gadgetry as well. Israel is one of the few countries other then the US to have such a modern force. Even some NATO members are using less modern equipment. Tim