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To: tejek who wrote (144824)4/12/2002 5:50:22 PM
From: SilentZ  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575792
 
>Z, I am not sure what you mean. I substituted a grenade for an egg from an old saying because they are about the same size and to make the old saying fit the scene. I guess I don't get your question.

My question was... are these people stuck in refugee camps in poverty because of Israeli actions, or because the Arab leaders would like them to stay there.

You know how I answer that.

> knew that they tend to be left wing.....so I was watching how he presented the info very carefully. He seemed balanced and measured in his complaints. He said his worst complaint was that his ambulances and medical people were stopped by Israeli soldiers and not allowed to get to where the injured and dead were lying. The Israeli representative present on the show was unable to rebuke that claim.

I can. There's video footage from the beginning of the intifada of ambulances being used to bring rocks and Molotov cocktails to the crowds of Palestinians. In the last two weeks alone, Israel has arrested a gunman hiding in an ambulance underneath the stretcher with a sick child on it trying to get through a checkpoint, as well as another ambulance with a bomb in it. The driver of the ambulance with the bomb, when questioned by police, said that there were other drivers doing the same thing. At least one of the female suicide bombers so far (actually, I think two of the four) worked for the Red Crescent, the Muslim Red Cross. Also, a woman a couple of days ago tried to pass a pillow strapped to her waist over a bomb as a pregnancy... she was caught.

The problem is that the Palestinians transport weapons and fighters in the ambulances at times, so it's really difficult to trust them.

>The Israeli rep. said they were under strict orders to only go after suspected terrorist members. However, there was evidence shown on the show that would indicate otherwise.

Such as?

>Huh? Doesn't that contradict what you said above?

>This is supposed to be more a police action.......however, whether it is or isn't, there is no room for atrocities. Its bad enough countries on the level of the Serbs commit such atrocities but Israel should be above that sh*t. Unfortunately, the hate is so great. Every show where a Palestinian and an Israeli are present, the hate and anger are very clear and there is no stopping it.........they are ready to kill each other.

In every war, there are atrocities even on the side of the good guys. Even Americans. I haven't heard of any massacres
that have actually been documented in the territories, but I've definitely heard of a number in Vietnam. I also heard a local guy talk proudly about how he and his comrades in the Gulf War found an Iraqi soldier's body which just had the lower half and head, and not the torso, so they put the head on top of the butt and took a picture with it. They pass it around every year at Thanksgiving. Things like that are so not cool, but war is war, and sometimes a country throws men into battle whom it doesn't know how they'll react. Israel and America both take responsibility and punish people that commit atrocities like that, if they catch them. The Palestinians definitely do not.

-Z