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To: tejek who wrote (144892)	4/13/2002 4:23:40 PM
From: AK2004	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572972

Ted re: A group of people of the same religion have been confined to designated areas you saying that as a response to the post with jewish genocide makes much worse than I can classify as anti-semitic. You are just a garbage of humankind. I know, extermination of European Jews is just trivial when compared to what Israel has done to Palestinians.

To: tejek who wrote (144892)	4/14/2002 1:37:19 AM
From: hmaly	Respond to of 1572972

Tejek Re.. I believe in and support the right of any disenfranchised group to live in peace and freedom.<<<<<<< Then you obviously must have been in favor of the South winning the civil war, or in favor of Hitler's claim that the oppression of the treaties from WWI justified WWII. You must also distinguish between the right to living in peace (unless you consider suicide bombers your version of living in peace), and waging war trying to get your version of peace. Make no mistake, Palestine has declared war upon Israel. Instead of shooting guns, firing rockets or bombing with an airplane, Palestine is using suicide bombers. They are bombers none the less, and your attempt to glorify them doesn't change that fact. Certainly, the people of Germany felt justified in bombing London, and its civilians, but it was an act of war none the less. This is also an act of war and should be treated as such. Does country A, have a right to attack another country B, if country B is harboring terrorists. Actually, there is ample evidence that the answer is yes. In fact, Canada once attacked the US in a raid to stop terrorists. The US attacked Mexico when I believe Pancho Via attacked New Mexico and fled across the border. And of course, the US attacked Afghanistan. Any country has the obligation to control its citizens, and its borders, and if it can't, be subject to attack, and pay for damages. In other words, if a person attacks from your country, or runs into your country to avoid prosecution, your country has the obligation to arrest them, or be considered in conclusion. Palestine has refused to arrest the leaders of the bombers, and is waging war on Israel. Why do you say they are trying to live in peace.

To: tejek who wrote (144892)	4/14/2002 11:32:26 AM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572972

>Albert, let me see. A group of people of the same religion have been confined to designated areas. They have no country of their own. They have been persecuted for their faith. Some consider them almost sub human. They are crowded into buildings unable to adequately house them. A scan of the area would suggest to most that these are slum conditions. They continue to survive on virtually nothing. If you're talking about the Palestinians, they're not being persecuted for their religion... they're allowed and encouraged to worship as they wish. They're sealed in refugee camps by leaders from their own religion. They are crowded into buildings by the same people. They are allowed to work, but their leaders would rather have them fight. >You may consider the plight of Judaism to be special and I can understand that but don't make me anti-semitic because I see a relationship between Jews and other persecuted cultures, or because I won't hold the Jews in the same special light that you have created for them. There are a couple of differences. For one, Jews have been persecuted in nearly every single country in the world over a period of 2000 years... the hatred is much more widespread. In a number of instances, especially the Holocaust, people tried to exterminate them completely, and in the Holocaust, an entire third of them were wiped out. Also, there's extensive propaganda against Jews in the world. Do you realize that blood libel accusations still circulate in the world? How about the fact that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a best-seller throughout the Arab world? That's all way more than I can say for any other group. >I believe in and support the right of any disenfranchised group to live in peace and freedom. Yes, but when you refer to the Palestinians, you seem to point your finger at the wrong place when it comes to responsibility for their disenfranchisement. That's a major problem. -Z