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Politics : WAR on Terror. Will it engulf the Entire Middle East? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (2334)	4/13/2002 9:29:22 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu	Respond to of 32591

Arrested Palestinian woman tells of plans to become a shahid Shaffa Adnan Amin Kudsi said her 8-year-old daughter would have been proud if her mother carried out a suicide bombing. (Photo: Channel One) The Israel Defense Forces and the Shin Bet security service arrested a young Palestinian woman last week who intended to infiltrate Israel disguised as a pregnant woman and carry out a suicide bombing in Netanya. The woman, Shaffa Adnan Amin Kudsi, 26, a divorced mother of an 8-year-old daughter, was arrested with the help of accurate intelligence information oreceived by the Shin Bet. An IDF force entered Palestinian-controlled territory in the West Bank village of Tul Karm and arrested Kudsi at her parents' home. She has since been held in a Shin Bet jail in Israel. Her brother was also arrested on charges of trying to carry out a suicide bombing against Israeli soldiers. The IDF and the government granted the American television station CBS an interview with her, which was then broadcast on the CBS news. At the beginning of the interview, she told of how she was arrested, and throughout the interview stressed that the arrest was carried out "forcefully." Kudsi said that on Thursday night IDF troops encircled her parents' house, and that when her father stepped out on to the balcony the soldiers shot towards him. "The soldiers entered the house and asked about me. When I told them my name, they ordered my mother to hold my hands and not let go. They searched me in front of my whole family. The soldiers were brutal towards me and my family, who were very scared," she said. When asked whether she intended to carry out an attack she said, "Yes, I wanted to be a shahid (martyr) for my country because of what the Jews are doing to my people in Nablus, Ramallah and Bethlehem." Kudsi was also asked when she made her decision to become a shahid and if it was her own decision or not. "I did it when I heard about a mother and four children who were killed by soldiers. I decided to exact revenge for their blood. It was my decision. I decided upon it a week ago," she answered. "I do not belong to any organization," she said, "It was my decision. I met someone, I don't remember his name, and we started planning it." She added that she intended to carry out the attack with an explosive belt. She said she chose Netanya because, "I know Netanya. I meant to enter Netanya and kill Jews. I hadn't had time to plan exactly where. If I wouldn't have succeeded, I would have attacked soldiers with a knife." When reminded that if she would have succeeded in her mission she would have died and harmed innocent Israeli civilians, she said, "I don't care. I am doing it for my country. What, is their blood different than ours? They kill old people and children every day, so we will hurt them too." Kudsi added that she wasn't worried for her daughter, who would have become an orphan if she had succeeded. "My daughter would have been proud of me because I would have become a shahid for my country and for her."

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (2334)	4/13/2002 9:42:36 PM
From: sylvester80	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 32591

So does that mean that there is no difference between the civilian casualties we killed No difference. It's just point of view. They are just for the US, and unjust for the Serbs, Afganistanies, Iraqis, Vietnamies etc.. etc.. Sep 11 was bad, very bad. But the reaction of Bush for Sep 11 was a typical male libido reaction. Instead of try and provide a long term solution to the problem that created Sep 11 first, while try and bring to justice the people responsible, we do not solve the fundamental problem but go into mass bombing killing in the process innocent civilians, and still do not get the masterminds of the whole thing (which was our target to begin with). And after all this, we are now closer to WW-III than we have ever been and more innocent civilians continue to die. Did World War II 'work'? Considering that we're getting closer and closer towards WWIII, the answer is no. Killings no matter what name they are done under never work and are never justified without trying to provide a solution to the fundamental problem in the first place. In WW-II we learned from WW-I that we needed to rebuild Germany after destroying it (which was something we did not do in WW-I that caused WW-II). But if/when WW-III takes place we would look at WW-II as a failure of many additional signals that we did not listen to. The Israeli-Palestinian problem needs to be solved and needs to be solved now. And the US IMO is the only one that can solve the problem once and for all... as incredible naive that sounds considering the 100s of years of war. The longer it takes the closer we get to the point of no return to the abyss. JMHO.