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To: teevee who wrote (2211)	4/14/2002 10:07:46 PM
From: Elizabeth Andrews	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 8273

I think you are missing the point. Are raw logs a commodity or not? Are they going to be priced as other commodities? This is the starting point. If Canada can't agree on that then there's a problem that will only go away when all BC mills are shut down due the countervailing tariffs. They are only going higher not lower. Is it a free trade zone or no?

To: teevee who wrote (2211)	4/15/2002 12:36:02 AM
From: marcos	Respond to of 8273

Any way left open for the pine lobby to do damage will aid their cause and hurt ours ... obviously if we let them starve out locals by taking logs while blocking anything value-added, we are cutting our own throats for the sake of a few temporary logging jobs ... temporary because their next move will be to bring in cheap labour to replace even those ... so a line must be drawn, and this is a good place to draw it, yes i agree that for the duration of this trade war, until US nationals wake up to their federal corruption and do something about it, we need to either block or heavily penalise exports of raw logs to the US ... as just one measure, i'd do a whole hell of a lot more than that If and when the mafiosos get slapped down, or in commerce with free-trade countries, i think raw logs should be less restricted, generally .... and that's the direction in which things have been moving for years anyway, of course ... forestry has always been changing since i first saw it in the late fifties, and if you read the history you find it was changing constantly from the start .... not all sparkling examples of righteous free enterprise with the Sommerses and EP Taylors et al, but there is a trend over the last few years to open it up more Inhibited very much by the old tenures of course, they would cost billions to buy out in a hurry, we don't have the money so the only way is to fire-sale the land ... well that's just what the capos want, it would be another United Fruit for them, easy pickings We need to just say to the US, very well then, if there is to be no free trade under your regime du jour, there'll be no free trade that's all, nice knowin ya, and this for the horse you rode in on ... oh, and next time you want some favour - ask your pine lobby ... oil, you say, pipelines, an ally you can take for granted, a place to dump your schlock kultur - ah surely you jest Ever see these maps? - news.bbc.co.uk ... i've been tuning into Palestine a little following Jenin ... you'll know this site of course - cactus48.com ... 1938 piece by Gandhi about two thirds down this page - cactus48.com - '"Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French... '