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To: i-node who wrote (145537)4/19/2002 3:41:41 PM
From: Joe NYC  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1574638
 
David,

I would not have been opposed to such a measure. And I think if the Democrats were at all motivated by anything other than politics they would have been willing to pursue an arrangement like this.

You got it. There can be reasonable people with different opinions about ANWAR, but for Democrats, it is not about reason, it is just pure politics. They take advantage of the fact that vast majority of people are uninformed or actually misinformed about the issue of environment, and they will shamelessly exploit it.

Joe



To: i-node who wrote (145537)4/19/2002 8:43:43 PM
From: American Spirit  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1574638
 
On ANWAR, it's greed/oil/pollution lobby vs. environment/clean fuels/conservation.

National security is much better served by getting OFF oil now than in committing ourselves more deeply to the fuel source. Even Bush admits now that oil is not the fuel of the future. So let's start now by gradually replacing it. Now THAT my friend is national security. Think how much a gasslon of gas REALLY costs us when you add it the Middle Eastern wars and military committment.

Politics is just the way things are done (fighting for votes and public opinion). The fact is, if it takes ten years to get oil out of ANWAR even if we started now (which thank God we aren't), then you could instead use that ten years and those 9 billion in Bush giveaways to Big Oil to start up an alternative fuels Marshall Plan to get us gradually off oil altogether, especially concentrating on hydrogen engines. It can be done and wil eventually have to be done so why not start now?

Also by fighting and defeating the recent fuel efficiency bill in the Senate Bush just wasted much more oil than would ever come out of ANWAR any time soon. Fuel effiency could save us much more than we get from Iraq and sends the right message. But oil/auto special interests won the day.
Absolutely disgusting. And their claims of "safety" are pure BS. Smaller foreign cars regularly test safer than larger American models.

Bush is using reverse logic when saying we need ANWAR to get out from under OPEC. The real solution, and a permanent, clean and safe one would be to start getting off oil altogether. Not an easy job but can be done. Will however take time, courageous action, money and of course a new President. Bush-Cheney ARE the oil business in case you hadn't noticed. And we can trust them about as much as we could their butt-buddies at Enron who helped put them in power in the first place, gouging the hell out of us as they did.

You can bet John Kerry will get on this if and when he's elected. I predict he will be in 2004. Kerry-Edwards. You heard it here. Bush's ratings are starting to come back to earth now. The war on terrorism may be all but over. Once the war fever/fear has dissipated Bush will be exposed and have to face up to what he's really all about. #1 is defending the interests of big oil and the pollution lobby. Always has been, always will be, except for about 8 months after 9/11. That's how history will see him.