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To: Richnorth who wrote (84579)4/19/2002 6:07:19 PM
From: Jaakko  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116764
 
Is each EURO country printing their own EURO paper money that they need? If so, does anybody know what controls are in place to check that one country doesn't cheat by printing more than their quota?



To: Richnorth who wrote (84579)4/19/2002 10:39:15 PM
From: E. Charters  Respond to of 116764
 
It's been written before and better from much more experience. I could not write a better book than "I Live in the Woods" which was penned by Paul Provencher a Quebec Game Warden. It is illustrated with pictures of the woods gimracks you can make and is extremely useful for survival. I think Provencher used to teach woods survival to the Army.

Read that and Free Gold, the Story of Canadian Mining by Arnold Hoffman. Both can be had in a library, but alas, McGraw Hill will not supply Free Gold which they used to publish.

What I could tell you about the bush and what I have seen in mining exploration is fascinating though. For one thing you never see anyone in the Canadian backwoods unless they are lost, explorationists or American fisherman. Canadians do not go back in the bush or use the true wilderness. Period. They would not know how. And how would they get there or know where to go? Let alone how to pitch a tent and live in comfort. To get through the wilderness one must canoe, and few Canadians can handle a canoe in rough water. Few can even paddle in a straight line. If I met some canoeists in the bush I would fill my canoe with money that they were foreign. In 30 years I met one party. Now we prospectors function almost completely by helicopter and float plane. (Such as we do function these days. Prospecting is a dying art)

I know a lot of good fishing areas in Canada. In some up north you could fill the bottom of a 14 foot boat with pike and pickerel in June in about 20 minutes. Perhaps catch one fish every minute. In the far north pike taste as good as pickerel and the Indians prefer pike. This is not so in the States where the water is warmer. One time when the plane did not arrive, we sent the three female camp cooks, out to fish, hoping we might catch some supper. We filled 3 - 23 cubic foot freezers with fish from 3 hours of their efforts and 15 people ate pike, breakfast lunch and supper for two weeks. It was good. In the southern lakes in reach of road they are meagre, fished out by Indians, tourists and mostly American fisherman. If I see a fisherman on the lake in the summertime and its a ways from town, I just ask him what part of the states he is from. Most hunters are foreign too. In Quebec it is a bit different as the locals poach to beat the band, so if you meet a hunter, fisherman, they are likely Quebecois, as they have discouraged tourism with their language law and disparagement of English spoken.

P.S. Most tourism to Ontario was found to be into the large cities by Americans. They would come to shop and walk about as they could not in their own cities. Ours were safe for tourists. Even when I was a kid the hunting and fishing lodge trade was not making it and had poor attendance. Our tourist operators do not cater to or understand the customer who is a rich European. Germans think a hunting experience is walking on a ten acre estate. You tell them that they can hunt perhaps 40,000 square miles and it boggles their mind. It is once in a lifetime for them. The federal government will not grant licencees of occupation to tourist operators for crown land anymore. You could not operate bush tourism if you wanted too. But they poured 30 million into Minaki Lodge on the English River as a Government Dacha program. 2 million square miles and the politicos will not allow settlement or homesteading. Still they bring 250,000 legal and 250,000 illegal immigrants in per year. They all go to the cities and squat. One time they filled Saskatchewan and farmed. There is no room for them anymore and the city suits do not see that. Madness.

EC<:-}



To: Richnorth who wrote (84579)4/20/2002 12:32:53 AM
From: E. Charters  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116764
 
Nutrition
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This grain has a high protein and carbohydrate content, and is very low in fat (Anderson 1976). The nutritional quality of wild rice appears to equal or surpass that of other cereals. Lysine and methionine comprise a higher percentage of the amino acids in the protein than in most other cereals. The SLTMvalue (sum of lysine, threonine, and methionine contents) often serve as a measure of the nutritional quality of cereals, and is a little higher for wild rice than for oat groats, which is one of the better cereals for humans. Amino acid composition of processed and unprocessed wild rice is similar, which indicates little reduction in nutritional quality during processing. Wild rice contains less than 1% fat, of which linolenic and linoleic acids together comprise a larger proportion of the fatty acids (68%) than in wheat, rice, or oats. Although these two fatty acids are easily oxidized and make wild rice prone to develop rancid odors, the high levels of linolenic acid make the fat in wild rice highly nutritious. Mineral content of wild rice, which is high in potassium and phosphorus, compares favorably with wheat, oats, and corn.
Processed wild rice contains no vitamin A, but serves as an excellent source of the B vitamins: thiamine, riboflavin, and niacin.

Commercialization/Domestication
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Perhaps the first individuals to attempt to increase availability of wild rice for food were Native Americans (Steeves 1952). Often suitable lakes or rivers were seeded to wild rice by mixing seed into clay, rolling it into a ball and dropping the clay ball into the water. This resulted in some, but not significant, increase in natural stands.

Businessmen and botanists have thought about cultivating this plant for over 100 years (Steeves 1952). Early European explorers collected seed for planting in Europe but these failed probably because the seed was not handled properly to remain viable. In 1828, Timothy Flint in Geography and History wondered why so little attention has been paid to wild rice. In 1852, Joseph Bowron suggested wild rice be seeded for agricultural purposes. In 1853, Oliver Kelly, founder of the National Grange, made the same proposal.
Mechanical harvesting of private lands in Canada started in 1917, by H.B. Williams and Z. Durand (Trevor 1939).

Since about 1950, wild rice has been in the process of becoming a domesticated crop in the United States and is now being grown commercially in both the United States and Canada (Oelke et al. 1982; Stevenson 1988). Prior to that time, natural stands were the only source of the grain, and supplies were limited and varied greatly from year to year. With the advent and growth of commercial production, supplies of wild rice have increased tremendously over the last 25 years. Natural stands continue to be harvested, but the proportion of total supplies derived from natural stands has steadily declined. In some areas, including the entire state of Minnesota, natural stands of wild rice, by law, must be harvested only by traditional canoe-and-flail method, whereas in some parts of Canada, mechanized harvest is permitted. Included in Table 1 are annual harvest estimates from natural stands in Minnesota since 1963. Of all the wild rice harvested by hand, Minnesota is likely to account for more than half in any given year.

In Canada, commercial production of wild rice takes place predominantly in lakes leased from the various provincial governments (Winchell and Dahl 1984). Lease provisions vary by province, but generally lease holders are permitted to seed the lakes and, in some cases, to control water levels, and are granted exclusive harvesting rights. Much of the wild rice acreage in these leased lakes is harvested with the use of airboats (Stevenson 1988). Shown in Table 1 are annual harvest estimates from lakes and rivers in four
Canadian provinces since 1963.

In the United States, wild rice is being produced commercially as a "domesticated" field crop in diked,
flooded fields. Minnesota and California account for most of the hectarage (8,000 and 4,000 ha, respectively, in 1992) with additional amounts in Idaho, Wisconsin, and Oregon. Table 2 shows production totals from cultivated fields in Minnesota and California since 1968.

Growing wild rice as a field crop was first attempted near Merrifield, Minnesota in 1950-1952 (Oelke et al. 1984). James and Gerald Godward diked a 0.5 ha area, planted it with seed collected from a nearby lake, and flooded the field. The field was drained before harvest and the crop was harvested by hand. An additional 16 ha were planted by them in 1953 and harvested with a small pull-type combine. They had good crops the first few years, but leaf blight (Bipolaris oryzae B. de Haan) caused serious losses
thereafter. However, they continued their pioneering efforts, and today one of their sons has nearly 1,000
acres in wild rice production.

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To: Richnorth who wrote (84579)4/20/2002 9:46:35 AM
From: Eclectus  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116764
 
Richnorth:

Off Topic: Massacre At Jenin?

I would be interested in your reaction to the following article:

Massacre At Jenin?
by Jack Kinsella

A threatened United States veto was the only reason the UN passed a resolution calling for an 'inquiry into Israel’s conduct at Jenin’ rather than an ‘investigation' into the 'Massacre at Jenin', as Kofi Annan and the UN’s Arab power bloc wanted to word it.

Why a Massacre?

Why is everybody so convinced Israel perpetrated a massacre on the Palestinians? The confirmed body count is [so far] below initial Israeli estimates and far below Palestinian estimates. Of the bodies found, almost all were armed combatants. But the world seems to expect a massacre, wants to find a massacre and will find one even if they have to add the fighters to the toll. They’ve concluded there must be a war crime in there somewhere.

From the Palestinian Perspective

Those Palestinians [albeit few] who were not in some way involved with the terrorist cells in Jenin suffered grievously. They have been utterly devastated by the Israeli tanks, the bulldozers and the gunfire.

Over the last few days, I’ve been trying to see things from the Palestinian side – trying to see whatever it is the rest of the world sees that makes it so eager to find a Sharon massacre that it is utterly unable to see Arafat’s terrorism.

The Jenin Refugee Camp

The main thrust of Israel’s attack was on the UN-administered refugee camp in Jenin. If I were a Palestinian living in that camp when the Israelis attacked, I like to think I’d ask myself some questions. The classic who, what, where, when, why and how series would do.

Who

Who are the Israelis attacking? Do they have a target? Or are they simply killing Palestinians for the sheer fun of it? 'Who?' is a significant question to be addressed if there is to be any understanding of the other questions. If I were a Palestinian living in Jenin, I would ask myself who brought this calamity upon my head?

Since I’d know that it was a response to terror attacks against Israel, whom would I blame for the attack? If I thought it through, looked at the cause and effect, I would find it hard not to hold the terrorists who hid in my neighborhood responsible.

What

What did Israel do while it was in Jenin? If I were a Palestinian eyewitness, I’d know. I’d know if Israel lined people up and shot them. I’d also be able to tell you who they were and where they were killed.

If there were a massacre, I’d find a reporter [there are hundreds of them] and I’d name names. If I were a Palestinian eyewitness, I’d line up with all the other victims [like they did in New York] with pictures of my missing loved ones.

If there are five hundred people missing in a refugee camp of 14,000, it seems incomprehensible that nobody can figure out who was massacred. You can be sure both the Israelis and the Palestinians [as well as the UN] have a comprehensive list of who they issued identity cards to in Jenin.

Where

Where was the attack centered? If I were a Palestinian who’d lived my life in a refugee camp a third the size of Central Park, I’d probably know where the terrorists were keeping the weapons, bomb factories and what neighborhoods would be likely targets. If those bomb factories were located near my family home, who would I blame? Israel? -- or the people who put my family in harm’s way?

When

When did Israel attack? If I were a Palestinian living in Jenin, I’d know that the majority of the human bombs striking civilian targets in Israel were coming from my hometown. I’d know that Israel didn’t launch an all out assault after the first bombing, or after the tenth. I’d know that Israel didn’t decide to destroy the terrorist infrastructure in Jenin until after they gave Chairman Arafat time to dismantle it peacefully.

Why

If I were a Palestinian living in a UN-run refugee camp in Jenin, in an area controlled by Yasser Arafat since 1993, the first ‘why’ question I would ask is, “WHY IS THERE A PALESTINIAN REFUGEE CAMP CALLED JENIN IN THE MIDDLE OF ARAFAT’S JURISDICTION IN THE FIRST PLACE? The international community has donated billions of dollars to the Palestinian Authority over the last ten years.

Why is there Palestinian ‘refugee’ camp inside Arafat’s borders? Jordan, Lebanon and Syria all dumped their Arab brothers into squalid refugee camps, but they could always say that they are Palestinians and not their problem.

But a Palestinian refugee camp, administered by the United Nations, existing in the heart of what would be a Palestinian state [if Arafat would agree to one] ten years after Oslo would have me demanding an answer to the question “Why”? Who would I ask? Not Israel. Why would I? It isn’t being administered by Israel. It’s being administered by the United Nations. It isn’t under Israel’s control. It’s part of the Palestinian Authority.

How

Finally, I’d ask myself; How did it come to this? Eleven years ago, a Palestinian state was unthinkable; only one year later, the Oslo Agreement granted the Palestinian Authority local autonomy and turned things over to Arafat to run. Ten years later, the only obstacle to realizing the dream of Palestinian statehood is Yasser Arafat.

After Oslo, Arafat and his cronies ended up living in villas overlooking the Med, but Jenin remained a squalid refugee camp.

Ten years later, Jenin is still a refugee camp. Keeping it under UN authority made it a perfect place for terrorists to set up shop.

Assessment:

If I were a Palestinian eyewitness to the events in Jenin, I’d have many questions. If I were honestly looking for answers to those questions, I’d need look no further than Yasser Arafat.

None of those questions seem to be important enough to interest the global press corps. They have all the answers they want. They are just seeking the appropriate questions to ask to put the preferred answers into the public record. For example, the answer is 'yes'. The question is, “did the Israelis go too far?”

The rest are just details.

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Setting the record straight,

Eclectus